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Leadership Tracking - Harper personal image untouched by controversy (Analysis with video)
The latest tracking from CPAC and Nanos Research indicates that regardless of recent controversies in the media faced by the Harper government, there has been no impact on the Prime Minister’s personal image. However, an increasing number of Canadians are unsure or select “none of the above” when it comes to chosing the federal leader who is the strongest on trust, competence or vision. Stephen Harper continues to rate strongly on competence.
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Nik: a "new" electorate appears to be forming with a "major apolitical swing gro... more
Tom Good (British Columbia) 09 May 03:47
Nik's polling shows that Harper (the teflon PM) continues to be consistently per... more
hollinm (Saskatchewan) 09 May 10:21
Nick, some good points there and there are some things the Liberals and others a... more
parnel (Ontario) 09 May 04:40
This was not parnel's comments but somebody on the Globe thread. However, Parnel... more
hollinm (Saskatchewan) 14 May 15:33
parnel...you ar so full of s..t. Who asks the questions day after day in QP abou... more
hollinm (Saskatchewan) 15 May 17:28
So you think Dion is a fair and decent man and by contrast I assume you think Mr... more
hollinm (Saskatchewan) 19 May 00:37
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Tom Good
Nik: a "new" electorate appears to be forming with a "major apolitical swing group" outside the traditional party fold. That group is very fluid. Where they may place their votes possibly will depend upon a political courtship ritual like we have never seen before. It looks like Harper is in the lead but with almost a third of the electorate in the "swinger's" group, that is like trying to hold quick silver in your hands----difficult and dangerous. As you say, to gain the non-committed's attention, it will require a good dose of vision for the future that we have not seen too much of lately with the antics in the House.
[updated Fri May 09 03:47:31 -0400 2008]
09 May 03:47
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parnel
Nick, some good points there and there are some things the Liberals and others are doing to move away from the condemnation approach they have been using which while not being direct hits apparently have stalled his numbers. Harper though, has the advantage of being the PM and should be even more solid in the polls using that office, and he isn't. His numbers have stalled and may even be trending down a little and with the undecideds having more weight than his overall popularity I see great openings for the others to define themselves. The carbon tax shift is probably only one of the initiatives the Lberals will roll out over the summer.
If the Liberals can dent Harper though the overall Tory support will fall like a rock and your poll indicates that vulnerability by the large numbers of undecideds.
[updated Fri May 09 04:40:41 -0400 2008]
09 May 04:40
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MRM
The Tories have to be very pleased with these numbers for three reasons: First, the opposition tactics of fabricating scandal after scandal has backfired on them and in fact has actually cost them support. Second, while the Tories core support has remained unchanged, there is now a huge undecided pool to try and draw that extra five to ten percent needed for a majority. This means that that pool is made up largely from the waning support of the other parties. And finally, I think that a lot of Canadians tend to vote more for the leader they most like than the party. With the PM out in front by a two to one margin or more on the issues of trust, competence and vision this positions the party very well to tap in into that undecided pool.
[updated Fri May 09 08:35:05 -0400 2008]
09 May 08:35
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westerner (suspended)
This is very good news for the Conservaitves in the aftermath of intense Liberal mudslinging. The Liberals are devoid of new ideas except a carbon tax on gasoline. Given the Liberal attempts to denigrate and slander Conservatives at every opportunity the Conservative support has held firm.
[updated Fri May 09 09:25:13 -0400 2008]
09 May 09:25
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hollinm
Nik's polling shows that Harper (the teflon PM) continues to be consistently perceived by the public to be better than all of the other leaders when it comes to trustworthiness, vision and competence.
The fact that the numbers for all the other leaders has dropped while the PM's numbers have remained consistent shows that Canadians are questioning their previous support for the opposition leaders/parties and electing to choose the undecided category. This should be of real concern for those leaders.
Dion continues to fail to impress the electorate and in fact his numbers are getting worse with each poll. The message to Dion and the Libs is that focusing on faux scandals, abstaining from voting and failing to put forward the Liberal vision for the country is going to continue to hurt the Liberal party big time.
This is a real plus for the Conservative government. It shows the government is on the right track and while Harper may not be lighting the house on fire the public recognizes he is the best choice among the current leaders' group.
With the musings about a carbon tax Dion has in fact handed Harper a majority government. Dion trying to explain the carbon tax and tax shifting idea will prove to be a disaster. With his broken English, lack of trust in the Liberal Party (adscam), the track record over 13 years of broken promises and the Libs desire to keep taxes the highest among the G7 this will allow the Conservative party to paint a very unflattering picture of Dion and the Liberal Party.
There simply will be no credibility with public when the Liberals promise a revenue neutal scheme which is code for higher taxes.
[updated Fri May 09 10:21:14 -0400 2008]
09 May 10:21
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westerner (suspended)
Agree! No tax is "revenue neutral" and the public knows this from past experience. They won't be fooled again!
[updated Fri May 09 10:41:27 -0400 2008]
09 May 10:41
hollinm
Let's hope so!
I am confident that Baird will tear the carbon plan to pieces because it needs to be exposed for what it is. A huge tax grab to satisfy the ideology of Dion.
How does dramatically increasing the cost of living of seniors, poor and working poor, who pay little in taxes now help them. It will drive them further into poverty.
[updated Fri May 09 11:19:56 -0400 2008]
09 May 11:19
parnel
That's if Baird can keep the Mounties from his doorstep.
[updated Fri May 09 12:26:13 -0400 2008]
09 May 12:26
hollinm
Wishful thinking parnel.
Like all the other faux scandals the Liberals will be barking in the wind.
Keep wearing those tinfoil hats. That's all you guys are good at is trying to manufacture sleaze. Nobody is listening parnel!
[updated Fri May 09 12:50:06 -0400 2008]
09 May 12:50
westerner (suspended)
Your response is a perfect example of Liberal mudslinging and slander. Surely you must have more to contribute to a discussion than slanderous innuendo.
[updated Fri May 09 14:04:03 -0400 2008]
09 May 14:04
degres
How is this one line of mud related to this poll? I think this statement, without background information or in context of this group should not be allowed. As it stands it appears to imply a crime. We only have the Who.
WHAT? When? Where? Why? What is this about?
As it stands it look like slander. Put it in context, in the correct group or remove it.
[updated Sat May 10 00:28:36 -0400 2008]
10 May 00:28
parnel
degres, there was a story in the Ottawa papers the other day about a local scandal where Baird's name keeps cropping up...I believe it involves the criminal charges against the mayor and the fact the RCMP have interviewed Baird more than once about his involvement. The story stated he was possibly going to be dropped from Cabinet if the story got any hotter which had his people in full damage control mode.
[updated Sat May 10 08:34:46 -0400 2008]
10 May 08:34
MRM
This case involved the mayoral election in Ottawa. The OPP have investigated and found nothing and dropped the matter. There is no RCMP investigation because the RCMP have determined that they have no jurisdiction as it an OPP matter. Despite the Liberal's desperate attempt to keep the story alive by insisting that because Baird is a BC resident that the RCMP should investigate they have refused. This tactic caused the OPP to question whether the Federal Liberals were accussing them of misconduct so they quickly backed off of their demands. This is still kept alive by left wing bloggers in an attempt to deceive people but it is a non- event in the MSM and another example of sleaze ball politics and why the Grits are dropping in the polls. Source - Ottawa Citizen Dec 12 2007.
[updated Sat May 10 11:04:39 -0400 2008]
10 May 11:04
Georgine
How long has Baird been a BC resident? Where in BC does he live, do you know? I'm just curious, I always thought that in lived in the Ottawa area.
[updated Tue May 13 03:23:05 -0400 2008]
13 May 03:23
MRM
Sorry, not Baird. It was John Reynolds that the Liberals tried to use as an excuse to have the RCMP investigate.
[updated Sun May 18 17:58:47 -0400 2008]
18 May 17:58
degres
I do not live in Ottawa. The majority of Canadians do not live in Ottawa. So I suggest that you start a new chat group about Ottawa News to give context to the one line of slander/mud.
Anyone can accuse anybody of anything for no reason on the web without being held to account. If you make a statement I expect you to be able to back it up.
In my world talking to the police or the RCMP is not a bad thing, maybe I can help in some way.
Provide the facts.
I still stand by my statement this has nothing to do with the poll in question.
[updated Sat May 10 23:55:31 -0400 2008]
10 May 23:55
MRM
degres- Don't expect Parnel to back up anything he says. He can't because, like his last post he just makes most of it up to suit whatever left twisted version of events he is trying to misrepresent at the time. When challenged he either tries to change the subject or challenges your sources but he never actually offers any facts to support his own case. I agree with you that this subject has nothing to do with the topic but it is a good example of him attempting to change the subject. If you re-read his post you see that there is no truth to any of it.
While the mayor has actually been charged but not yet gone to court it was not by the RCMP, it was by the OPP and he was charged with “PRETENDING to have influence with the Government of Canada or with a minister of the government, contrary to Sec. 121 of the Criminal Code.” Source – CBC News 20 Feb 2008. As a result Baird has been cleared of any wrong doing.
If I believed that there actually was “ a story in the Ottawa papers the other day” that “stated he was possibly going to be dropped from Cabinet if the story got any hotter which had his people in full damage control mode.” I would challenge him to produce it but I know that there was not, at least not one from any credible news source so I won’t bother. I’ll just chalk it up another Parnel fabrication.
[updated Sun May 11 10:47:45 -0400 2008]
11 May 10:47
parnel
la de da...more BS
[updated Sun May 11 17:58:02 -0400 2008]
11 May 17:58
MRM
degre - See what I mean. No attempt to defend any of his made up nonsense.
[updated Sun May 11 22:35:20 -0400 2008]
11 May 22:35
Non-aligned in Toronto
I find it interesting that despite all of the photo ops and free publicity that attends being PM, that Harper is stalled at or close to the core Conservative support base. Normally you would expect a PM to be able to pull in a few folks on name and face recognition alone. This isn't happening for Harper and he has been unable to capitalize on Dion's incredibly weak image, and lukewarm (at best) support within his own party. The fact that almost all of the movement has been to the "undecided", or "none of the above" category suggests a weakness in the Harper camp that must be unsettling. The only saving grace is that no other party leader has been unable to step forward to fill the vacuum.
It won't be Dion, and the Liberals seem like deer in a headlight, paralyzed and unable to muster the courage to dump him.
Layton has done a reasonable job of rallying the dippers to their traditional levels of support, but as long as he continues "preaching to the choir" he won't be able to break through beyond that point except for some protest voted from left leaning Liberals sick of the lack of courage and direction from the leading cadre of their own party.
The Greens seem to have lost their romantic image as people begin to question whether they are only a one trick pony.
[updated Thu May 15 09:56:48 -0400 2008]
15 May 09:56
hollinm
Your assessment of the current situation is accurate.
There is something about Harper that Canadians are not comfortable with. Perhaps it is the number done on him by the Liberals over two elections talking about a hidden agenda.
Harper has not helped himself with his lack of an effective communications strategy and his desire to reduce the visibility of the government in the eyes of Canadians. In other words, he is not like the Liberals who would go out or issue press releases making grandiose announcements and then not fulfulling them. They fed the media machine daily making life easy for the journalists and so they accepted whatever the Liberals said without much investigation.
Mr. Harper can come across as cold, calculating and highly partisan. I think people want a leader who is perceived to be cuddly and a nice person. I have met Mr. Harper on several occasions and he does not come across as a cold person and does have a real sense of humour.
Adding to the lack of communications strategy is the relationship with the media. He has ticked them off and they are doing everything in their power to ensure that anything they can say that is negative about the government they will say. They truly see themselves as an opposition party.
I call it advocacy journalism where the lines between a news story and columnists opinion has been blurred. In the news it is not overt but there are adjectives added which leads the reader to a certain conclusion. With the need to make news available 24 hours a day the media is having trouble filling the papers and airwaves so they will attempt to create controversy where there is none and run with it for days.
How all of this will affect him in the next election I have no idea. Nik's recent poll shows on the issues of vision, trustworthiness and competence he beats all the leaders hands down.
As for Dion he is a terrible leader and has the political instincts of a nat. The abstaining and sitting on of hands has proven to Canadians that he has no principles and really is clinging to power because his polling is telling him the Libs can't win. Now with his new carbon tax proposals with unprecedently high gas prices etc. he is proposing a further tax on Canadians. This one issue if he runs with it will be like the GST issue back in 1992 and he will lose big time. However, if he elects to run on the carbon tax platform in the next election I predict there will be a rebellion in the caucus.
He knows what Jack Layton is thinking. He reminds me of a used car salesman who has the same talking points and really adds nothing substantive to the public debate because his mantra is always the same. Corporations are bad and we need to get rid of them. He has his constituency of about 2 million voters and thats about it.
The next election will be an interesting one but I suspect when Canadians take the measure of Harper and Dion they will continue to support Harper.
Despite all of the faux scandals the Libs have tried to create none of them have really stuck to the PM or the government. Perhaps its because the Liberals have such a checkered past when it comes to ethics anything they say on the subject shows them to be hypocrits.
I have voted Liberal in the past but changed my vote after the Liberals did not eliminate the GST as they promised nor change the Free Trade Agreement. The fact that the Liberals did nothing really over 13 years with big majorities and kept our taxes the highest in the G7 added to my disillusionment. The adscam scandal proved to be the final straw and showed me that the Liberal party was in power only for themselves
[updated Thu May 15 17:17:00 -0400 2008]
15 May 17:17
degres
What I find interesting is the PM rating is same (+/- 1). All the others have dropped. I think it is time for them to show interest in the country, not trying to score political point.
PLEASE stop calling a Royal Commission on everything but the dog. If A.G./RCMP bring up concerns I would support a Royal Commission; in most cases they have been a waste of time, resources, and tax dollars.
[updated Sun May 11 00:18:05 -0400 2008]
11 May 00:18
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Bernie
Who gives a rodents rear end about "personal image" or "leader"
I'd vote for a tasmanian devil if he presented me with a good policy platform
Stalin, Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, today's ruler of Burma, George Bush were/are "leaders of their people. No! Thank you! I don't want leaders.
Giev me someone who will follow the peoples' lead.
I don't propose to know what characterisics comprise a "leader" or a good "personal image". I would suggest it takes more than those three covered in the poll.
I find Harper the least trustworthy of the lot. Granted the others are not in a position whereby we have an opportunity to evaluate them as much. When you are not in power not as much attention is paid to what you say or do. So there is a different basis for evaluation. Harper has revealed his untrustworthiness before he became head of his party, while head of his party and even more so since becoming PM.
Nor do I give him a high competence rating. He has made many mistakes since becoming PM. Mistakes a more competent PM would not make.
Who knows what his vision is? I suspect what it is and it is the most reason that I would do what I can to see that he never gets a majority.
[updated Sun May 11 08:47:50 -0400 2008]
11 May 08:47
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parnel
I think another issue has cropped up In Quebec for Harper..The right wing ADQ got hammered in each of three byelections there today doing significantly worse than in the last general election. That party is his alter ego there.
[updated Mon May 12 21:59:02 -0400 2008]
12 May 21:59
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Non-aligned in Toronto
Darn! I wish I was the leader of the "None of the Above Party"
[updated Wed May 14 09:42:20 -0400 2008]
14 May 09:42
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parnel
Here's the biggest and most hypocritical piece of the accountability act as Harper has exempted a whole whack of people from the prying eyes of the Ombudsman:
"OTTAWA – Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his cabinet have exempted contracts with Parliament and Canada's spy agency from oversight by a new ombudsman's post that was central to the 2006 Conservative election campaign.
The government slipped the exemptions through last week in regulations that empower the contract procurement ombudsman under the Accountability Act – flagship legislation the government introduced as its first bill soon after taking office.
Opposition MPs were taken by surprise at the exemptions, saying they were unaware the Senate, the House of Commons and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service would be excluded from the ombudsman's statutory duty to review contracts for "fairness, openness and transparency."
The exemptions also mean anyone who has a complaint about contracts to supply goods or services to Parliament – including contracts with offices of MPs, senators or CSIS, will be unable to have them reviewed by the ombudsman."
Now that's accountability!!!!!
[updated Mon May 19 18:16:30 -0400 2008]
19 May 18:16
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parnel
Here's Nick's latest poll numbers actually showing the Liberals on top albeit by a very slim % much as I had predicted earlier in the week..
http://www.nanosresearch.com/library/polls/POLNAT-S08-T301.pdf
The days of Harper incompetence are coming to an end.
So much for personal popularity contests.......its the content stupid!!!
[updated Fri May 23 06:15:41 -0400 2008]
23 May 06:15
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I read these numbers with disbelief, because they defy logical analysis. The Tory vision for Canada is virtually identical to the failed Bush doctrine. Support for America’s disastrous wars. Big on the wars against crime and terror, including steamrolling the rights and freedoms of citizens in clumsy attempts to watch everyone, everywhere. Anti-Kyoto, leaving the US and Canada as global pariah states. Deregulation, privatization and lower corporate taxes, because business is good and government is bad. In fact, other than the military, the police and penitentiary staff, who needs it.
Caring for the disadvantaged? Screw them.
I don’t trust Mr. Harper even for a minute. He is a cunning, secretive control freak who attacks and smears his “enemies” with Rove-like viciousness. If he was ever to win a majority, his extreme right wing ideology could wreck havoc on a slew of social programs, from health care to welfare. And say good bye to the CBC, the wheat board and Canada Post.
And I find the man to be entirely incompetent. Mr. Harper has jettisoned Canada’s proud 50-year tradition of peacekeeping in favour of making war. The Tories are on a military spending spree that defies logic. “Modern” weaponry is incredibly expensive and soon obsolete.
Despite our small population, we are 14th in the world in military spending and heading higher. For what? We haven't been attacked in almost 200 years.
Mr. Harper is indeed competent at muzzling his cabinet ministers and bureaucrats. At arming border guards and game wardens, but without an iota of demonstrated need.
[updated Sat May 24 14:13:30 -0400 2008]
24 May 14:13
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MRM
The latest TO Star poll has the Tories (34%) with a seven point lead over the Grits (27%).
Given the other data in the poll one can only assume that if an election were called today the Tories may actually get into majority teritority while the Liberals may well slip into non-official opposition range. There is little doubt as to why Dion fears an election but he won't be able to dodge one past the fall without risking a palace coup. That data I spoke of is as follows:
Approval Ratings: Harper 32%, Dion 10%
Preferred Prime Minister: Harper 33%, Dion 11%, Neither 44%
49% do not want the opposition to force an early election
Harper defeats Dion on seven qualities and characteristics
One can only assume that if the undecided were forced to choose today the majority would not choose Dion. This fact will bode well for both the Tories and the NDP.
[updated Sun May 25 18:59:40 -0400 2008]
25 May 18:59
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parnel
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/429906
Here's the first of a series of articles by Canada's largest newspaper highlighting the secrecy Harper operates under. If one believes in democracy this stifiling of the freedom of expression has got to piss off people greatly and I'm glad to see the Star exposing this.
[updated Mon May 26 06:11:39 -0400 2008]
26 May 06:11
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