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Nanos Leadership Index and Ballot

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The latest Nanos Leadership Index tracking indicates that, among decided voters, the Conservatives still hold a solid nine point lead over the Liberals.

Key takeaways include that the Conservative ballot support has not diminished in the face of controversial issues in December such as the Afghan detainee issue or the focus on the environment. For the Liberals, although perceptions of Ignatieff have softened it has not led to a negative fallout in Liberal ballot support.

Also of note, the percentage of undecided voters is unusually high in this specific wave of Nanos tracking. This may be indicative of a number of things including greater voter volatility and general public discontent with Canada’s current state of political discourse. For the Conservatives, the higher undecided should temper their confidence in their current ballot box advantage.

Impressions of Ignatieff continues to decline since he assumed the leadership of the Liberal Party of Canada. Michael Ignatieff’s current overall Leadership score (39.0 points) represents another 15.8 point drop in the past quarter of leadership tracking placing him behind both Stephen Harper (94.6 points) and New Democrat leader Jack Layton (41.2 points).

Of note, even with Stephen Harper’s commanding leadership advantage, many Canadians are increasingly hesitant to believe any one federal leader can be trusted, has vision or is competent. Undecided opinions of Canadians have increased in all three categories of the Leadership Index. Of note, in the ‘Best Vision’ category, all leaders dropped and the ‘none/undecided’ category increased by 10 points.

The detailed tables and methodology are posted on our website. You can also register to receive automatic polling updates.

Ballot Question: For those parties you would consider voting for federally, could you please rank your top two current local preferences? (Committed voters only - First Preference)

The numbers in parenthesis denote the change from the last Nanos National Omnibus survey completed between November 7th and November 10th, 2009.

National Decided Voters Only (n=745)
Conservative 39.5% (-0.3)
Liberal 30.2% (+0.2)
NDP 18.7% (+2.1)
BQ 7.7% (-1.2)
Green 4.0% (NC)
Undecided 25.7% (+8.2) of all voters surveyed

Leadership Index Questions: As you may know, [Rotate] Michael Ignatieff is the leader of the federal Liberal Party, Stephen Harper is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, Jack Layton is the leader of the federal NDP, Gilles Duceppe is leader of the Bloc Quebecois and Elizabeth May is leader of the federal Green Party. Which of the federal leaders would you best describe as:

The numbers in parenthesis denote the change from the Nanos National Omnibus survey completed between September 3rd and September 11th, 2009.

National (n=1,003)
The Most Trustworthy Leader

Stephen Harper: 29.3% (-2.0)
Michael Ignatieff: 10.9% (-3.1)
Jack Layton: 16.4% (+2.7)
Gilles Duceppe: 6.3% (-1.5)
Elizabeth May: 4.6% (-3.4)
None of them/Undecided: 32.6% (+7.4)

The Most Competent Leader

Stephen Harper: 35.3% (+0.8)
Michael Ignatieff: 13.3% (-7.1)
Jack Layton: 10.8% (+0.2)
Gilles Duceppe: 5.7% (+1.1)
Elizabeth May: 2.3% (NC)
None of them/Undecided: 32.6% (+8.7)

The Leader with the Best Vision for Canada’s Future

Stephen Harper: 30.0% (-2.3)
Michael Ignatieff: 14.8% (-5.6)
Jack Layton: 14.0% (-0.6)
Gilles Duceppe: 3.4% (-0.6)
Elizabeth May: 2.8% (-0.9)
None of them/Undecided: 34.9% (+10.0)

Leadership Index Score

Stephen Harper: 94.6 (-5.1)
Michael Ignatieff: 39.0 (-15.8)
Jack Layton: 41.2 (+2.3)
Gilles Duceppe: 15.4 (-3.2)
Elizabeth May: 9.7 (-4.3)

What do you think?

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As I said before, not that I am the best guesser half the time, I believe the Co... more

Tom Good (British Columbia) 30 Dec 05:30

Little is mentioned about the ages of Ignatieff,Ducceppe,and Layton.At 62 years... more

General Overreach (Alberta) 30 Dec 11:02

Interesting poll, particularly the stats showing a large, and growing undecided... more

Non-aligned in Toronto (Ontario) 30 Dec 07:51

Very well said. American style of blind political partisanship is the new proble... more

Blackacadian (New Brunswick) 19 Jan 07:57

Nicholson is embarassing himself trying to trick Canadians with the lie that the... more

Harper said he will privatize health insurance (British Columbia) 30 Jan 19:20

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Tom Good

As I said before, not that I am the best guesser half the time, I believe the Conservatives are moving toward a slim majority, the Liberals are moving toward a leadership race and the NDP are possibly moving toward Official Opposition. As Harper gains a Conservative majority in the Senate, I believe this will enhance his legislative programme and enhance his government in the eyes of the electorate. If Harper attempts some Senate reform, which is 100 years behind schedule, I believe the electorate, especially in the West, will regard such a move in a positive light and, I am equally sure, the Liberals will scream like hell as Ignatieff has not supported any move other than the status quo. I am equally sure Quebec would regard Senate reform as diminishing their influence, which is true, but a difficult position to hold where a democracy is supposedly equality for all that is absent in Canada for both the House of Commons and the Senate..

Harper gives me the impression that his hearing has improved and he has slowly grown in the role as Prime Minister over the four years. Ignatieff still gives me the impression that he is the "front man" for the Committee and I do not think that is a strong approach in politics as the polls have reflected with his steady decline. Layton gives me the impression that on his watch, the NDP has almost abandoned social justice, the conscience of the land, that was their strong card and is trying seize the middle ground that the Liberals seem to have abandoned as they play footsie with the Conservatives. I believe the Liberal "brand" is very recognizable and any NDP gains in the centre will be short lived depending upon who the next Liberal leader will be.

Federal politics should be very interesting this coming Spring as none of the federal parties have learned how to be effective in a minority parliament.

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The real story here is voter apathy that has been created in the minds of Canadians. Almost 33% are undecided or don't care which plays, unfortunately, into the hands of a government like the Tories who sow hatred and dishonest thinking about politicians because their base is so narrow. These Tories want to turn off voters and bribe theie core into voting for them in other words ghettoizing a majority of the voting public. Unfortunately for them the voting public will awaken.

Harper has been on a charm offensive for mon ths and it has not brought him more admirers and in fact there are fewer of them plus an even larger coterie of undecideds in th electorate. No leadership there that's for sure.

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Non-aligned in Toronto

Interesting poll, particularly the stats showing a large, and growing undecided factor. The NDP continues to show impressive growth and now is polling above what it received in the last election. The Conservatives are achingly close to the magic 40% mark (39.5) and can almost taste majority. The Liberals are surprisingly holding their own in spite of their leadership woes.

The Greens are in danger of falling off the map, and the BQ is showing surprising weakness.

The trends over the last several months tell the most interesting story, however, with the dippers steadily growing at the expense of the Libs and Greens, while the Cons hold almost steady.

I would think that Mr. Harper, if these trend lines continue, may be very tempted to engineer the defeat of the Government in the house as I can't think that he will ever be closer to majority territory that he is now, and while his main Liberal opponant is in disarray.

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General Overreach

Little is mentioned about the ages of Ignatieff,Ducceppe,and Layton.At 62 years old Mr.Ignatieff is hardly the future for the Liberal party,especially with leadership issues that the Liberals are facing.For the Liberals,everything will take longer than it takes,and along with that a leader who becomes a pensioner.
Mr.Ducceppe,also at 62 has shown rumbling in the past as wanting to pack it in and retire.I would say the next election will be his last and the Bloc will be looking for new new leadership.
Mr.Layton will be turning 60 this year, and if being the official opposition is in the cards for him, I believe he will stick around for a four year term before packing it in.If the NDP does not improve the seating numbers,look for Mr.Layton to also give up his leadership of the ND party.
Harper at 50,has a least 10 more years in him,especially if he does get a majority.

Age will take it's toll on the over 60 year old party leaders, and I believe the first of those will be Mr.Ignatieff, especially with the poll numbers that are being presented.Retirement will be his dignified way to exit.

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ABC Partytime (suspended)

It is convenient of Nanos to leave out the November 17-23 period when the Liberals hit bottom as according to the other polls or use the September 3-11 period to show the difference in the public's assessment of the leaders. A gentle massaging of the data Nick. It is clear that the most popular leader at the moment is none of them. It looks like diehard Conbots are relentless in supporting their leader, almost like being whipped, while the Liberal supporters wants Iggy to stand up to Harper in a more abrasive attack on Harper.

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Off topic but an important piece that describes why conservatives should not govern this country:
From WK's blog...(which people do read)

Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 01:15 PM
...that's what Ezra Levant, Reform-Conservative Party spokesman - and advisor to Citizenship Minister Jason Kenney - calls Liberal MP Irwin Cotler. A "porch Jew."

You know, like a "porch monkey."

That Levant could make such a despicable statement about one of the greatest Canadian Parliamentarians is, sadly, no surprise. Levant defends neo-Nazis and racists on a regular basis, and is reviled by all but Stephen Harper's cabal.

What do you think? Should Harper's team continue to rely upon Ezra Levant as a spokesman? Or should they kick him to the curb, once and for all?

Here's a screen grab of a telling Twitter exchange, passed along by the ever-vigilant Jason Cherniak. (Thanks, Jason.)

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More disgusting tory moves sure to bring more shame on this useless government:

Question: In what other democracy is it permissible for the government of the day to hide from the legislature for months at a time? To ignore explicit parliamentary votes demanding the production of documents? To stonewall independent inquiries? Perhaps the rules allow it elsewhere, but is it the practice? Does convention not still forbid it? Is it not viewed in other countries as dictatorial behaviour, and therefore, you know … not done?

So, rather than submit himself to the inquiries of elected parliamentarians, the King will dismiss Parliament, in the grand tradition of kings past. The question is: what will Parliament do now? If historical precedent is any guide, it should meet anyway. Let those MPs who wish to do the people’s business convene on the usual timetable, and let those with other loyalties disport themselves as they may.

If MPs are barred at the doors to Parliament — and wouldn’t that be an interesting scene — let them meet somewhere else. A tennis (court would do nicely.

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What's Wrong With This Government?

Just caught my two favourite pundits on the tube this morning. Now that's better. In fact, one hell of a lot less frostier than last time. These two guys really have the holiday spirit.

Unlike this government, they have the good sense not to prorogue!

Yes, Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, we're talking game-changer here. Talk about an overreaction to a committee that supposedly has GOT NOTHING. Can you say scared shitless...

But every political disaster has some positive elements. Just think of it: all those hard-working Conservative MPs -- suddenly prorogued from further hard work for the next two months.

Taking a powder replaces steady as she goes...tell that to the unemployed. You remember them -- this government's NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. Add to that a rudderless economy while this government is content concentrating on Olympic fever.

Yes friends, narrow political self-interest is the Harper government's mantra. That's JONE ONE for these guys rather than looking after Canadians' lost jobs.

Hate to break it to you Conservatives, but if I was you, I wouldn't count on a podium finish after this latest bit of cleverness.

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That Conservative New Year's Resolution.

I hope that the linguists are being paid overtime -- talk about previously pent up demand from the royal blue side of the aisle.

What with the big pig out scheduled for January 3rd, the French lessons must be going fast and furious. Not to mention another interesting spurt tentatively scheduled for next September.

I hope participants can cut the mustard. After all, such is the duality of Canada.

I'm hoping some of my friends are in the running. But the Prime Minister isn't telling. Let's put it this way: his judgment calls will at the very least be interesting and perhaps, rather instructive.

See you in the New Year!

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I just read 109 comments and replies in a "debate" between Brusmit, Rough and Tumble, and ABC partytime with a few others chiming in from time to time.

I've rarely seen such a repetitive trite and boring discourse (among ALL of the principals) in a long time.

Sounded like a "Did too, Did not, yer mother wears army boots" type of discussion guys.

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Taking The War To The Conservatives.

Prorogation II has killed the well-worn myth of parties working together for the common good. In reality, that was never the case since the first election of this government in 2006. This Prime Minister never had any intention of putting Canada first. Political survival was continually uppermost in his mind and Harper's battle plan always prioritized staying in power, by hook or by crook.

Canadians are finally waking up to the bad joke which they themselves foisted on their fellow citizens -- minority government is an abject failure largely due to old political habits that die hard...

God knows the next one should be a majority government but that will depend entirely on which candidate the voters choose to give the benefit of the doubt to. As the old refrain goes, if it was going to happen for this PM, it would have happened by now. Think back to the last prorogation farce with opposition zealots assaulting the Conservative castle. Translation: won't ever be happening for Harper.

As Liberals, we have to go into the New Year with a new and strengthened game plan. The balance of power in legislative terms shifts back to the House of Commons with the impending appointment of six Conservative senators. Time for Liberals to stand up and be counted. Time to project our vision for the country and focus like a laser beam. And time to move ahead and damn the torpedoes.

Liberals have a mark to make. Time for us to show Canadians what we're made of in the Commons and let the chips, leadership or otherwise, fall where they may. Conservative bungling won't get us into office anytime soon -- and neither will vigorous inaction or deliberate delay. We're Liberals. It's about time we act like Liberals. The "right stuff" demands it.

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Lets have a Poll, Which countries do you consider the worst on Earth?




Having said that I'm totally opposed to Clement approving this ChinaPetro deal, we are going to pay for this move big time, you cannot trust the Chinese, He had better make it clear to them who they can employ or we are doomed. Also he better collect high royalities off them and cash up front before they ship out of a port like Rupert

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What is a get, I have twitter and cannot login to this stupid site, hell they are faster at the site for login

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Zachary Smith

Why it is good to be a Conservative and not a Liberal by John Ibbitson and Gloria Galloway with additional comments by concerned Liberal.

1) "Whether he looks forward or backward, Stephen Harper must be enjoying the view."

The only view that the Liberals get to see is the Conservatives pulling away again.

2) "The Prime Minister had a very good 2009, blending policy successes with bare-knuckle political fisticuffs that left one opposition politician after another reeling."

Sit, Mr. Duceppe. Roll over Mr. Layton and play dead Mr. Ignatieff.

3) "His decision to prorogue Parliament for pretty much the rest of the winter has pundits and constitutional experts howling. "

What is 15 days to a Liberal, NDP and Bloc MP?

4)" Well we should howl. Shutting down the House and Senate for the second time in one year makes a mockery of Parliamentary government."

How soon we forget, the Liberals under Mr. Chrétien prorogued Parliament twice while he had a majority, the first time in September 2002 and November 2003 and that did not make a mockery of Parliamentary government.

5) "But prorogation leaves the Conservatives with a clear field and this Prime Minister with a deserved reputation as the most capable manager of minority government since Lester Pearson nearly half a century ago."

Well, he has only had to deal with the Liberal left over`s consisting of Mr. Martin, Mr. Dion, Mr. Ignatieff, he has not yet faced NDP Bob Rae as yet and that will be the true test.

6) "In the legislatively vacant months to come, the Conservatives will prepare for the March 4 budget that must address the question of balancing the federal books after the stimulus program ends in 2011."

That $10.0 Billion dollars that GM is going to pay back in June 2010 is sure going to come in handy.

7)" In the meantime, the public service will continue to manage the day-to-day of government; ministers will prepare and propose to the PM their legislative priorities for 2010, Mr. Harper will travel the land extolling the virtues of his government's ongoing stimulus plan, and the media will relentlessly speculate on the possibility of a cabinet shuffle (likely) or a vote of no-confidence in the government after the March 3 Speech from the Throne (most unlikely)."

See number 13 and number 14.

8) "The opposition parties are threatening to continue holding ad-hoc hearings into the abusive treatment of Afghan detainees back in 2006, but that will be mere theatre. "

See number 9

9) "Without the legal immunity conferred on those who testify before a true Parliamentary committee, witnesses will be more than reluctant to come forward."

I wonder if they will be as quick with the allegations now that they will have to be able to support it in a court of law.

10) "And whether Conservative cabinet ministers were negligent in protecting detainees from being abused by their Afghan jailors appears to be, for most Canadians, a quibble. "

Real Canadians are more concerned with the deaths of Canadian soldiers than the odd shoe to the head of an Afghani Detainee by another Afghani.

11) "Despite weeks of embarrassing revelations last autumn that left Defence Minister Peter MacKay thrashing in a morass of self-created contradictions, polls continue to show the Conservatives solidly in front of Michael Ignatieff's Liberals."

After one of the worst years possible that any Government could face and the Conservatives are at 39.5%.

12) "A survey released this week by Nanos Research has the Tories 10 points ahead of the official opposition and Mr. Harper's approval rating double that of Mr. Ignatieff's. "

How can it get any better than that, but the best part is that it will get better.

13)" The numbers suggest that the Conservatives would be foolish to seek an election, and the Liberals suicidal to force one."

Will Mr. Ignatieff play dead or will he continue to hide are the only two questions now remaining.

14) "Mr. Ignatieff is no more popular than his predecessor, Stéphane Dion, who must be counted the most unsuccessful leader in the history of the Liberal Party."

Well that does say why the Liberals are hiding Mr. Ignatieff.

15) "The Conservatives can also take credit for delivering on their promise to get tough on offenders, easily pushing bill after bill through the House although many others died on the order paper with prorogation."

The best part is that the Conservatives can reintroduce each bill and request a fast track as they have all been passed by the house with the help and blessing of the Liberals and then send them to the Conservative Senate for even quicker passage and how can the Liberals now complain.

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There is yet another good piece from Mr. Spector in todays G & M and it would appear that he is of the opinion that we may well be in election mode shorty.

I like the first five and I am sure that you will like the last four and would you care to discuss any of the points.

Here’s why you’ll be going to the polls on that tuesday

1) It will have been almost 18 months to the day since the last federal election, about the average life of a minority government.

With Mr. Harper slated to host the G8 and G20 meetings in June, he has a narrow window to get an election out of the way before the delegates arrive.

2) Notwithstanding the continued strength of the Bloc in Québec, Mr. Harper is now within shooting distance of achieving a majority government, a goal sought by all (and all potential) prime ministers.

3) Based on the latest Nanos poll, Michael Ignatieff — Mr. Harper’s only potential replacement — has fallen below Jack Layton in the eyes of Canadians on the issue of leadership, and Mr. Harper runs little risk of not being in the chair for the G8 and G20 meetings after a spring election.

4) If Mr. Harper’s decision to prorogue Parliament was designed to thwart further investigation into the Afghan detainees issue (why else would he have done the dirty deed?), he will be looking to ensure from the get-go that the opposition parties don’t pick up where they left off as soon as the new session begins. A quick election call would neatly do the trick, especially given Canadians’ apparently lukewarm interest in the issue.

5) The Throne Speech will be read by the Governor-General on Wednesday March 3rd and the budget will be tabled by finance minister Flaherty the next day; both will situate Canada on the path to gradual economic recovery and stress the need for a firm hand on the tiller, and on the till.

With these documents on the public record, Mr. Harper could then cross the street to Rideau Hall to request a vote on Tuesday April 12th, explaining to voters that Canada needs a single set of safe hands on the wheel (namely, his!) to deal with the next phase of the economic recovery through gradual expenditure restraint and no tax increases.

Here’s why Mr. harper won’t wait until the fall to call an election

1) Several polls have indicated that Canadians are increasingly uncomfortable with the shenanigans in Ottawa during minority government situations.

However, whether the election is in the spring or the fall, the big unknown remains whether that sentiment can survive a five-week campaign during which voters are staring the prospect of a Harper majority government directly in the face.

2) Waiting until the fall to call an election would allow economic concerns — Mr. Harper’s trump card—to further fade as the top of mind issue for voters in an improving economy.

3) The HST comes into effect in Ontario and British Columbia — key provinces in a possible Harper majority — on July 1st. Waiting until the fall to call an election would mean that the Conservatives would reap the anger at the new tax — and normally it’s the first government to go to the polls that does — at a time when back to school purchases would still be very fresh in the minds of voters.

4) Waiting until the fall would also give Michael Ignatieff more time to recover from his disastrous 2009.

On the other hand, dropping a quick writ in the spring — a page straight out of the Jean Chrétien playbook — would throw a spanner in the Liberals’ thinkers conference, planned for Montréal from March 26 to 28.

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It would appear that in the Liberal generated action around the Liberal created "in and out scandal" goes to the Conservatives in round number one and that does not bode well for the Elections Canada and the Liberals in the ongoing court case at the federal level.

I would direct your attention to number 3, 8 and 9 and to 11 for the Liberals.

From CTV

Court tells Elections Canada to accept Tory cash, Date: Friday Jan. 1, 2010 6:23 PM ET

I have included all the points in the article so as not to confuse other individuals and allow them to comment in a thoughtful and logicial manner regarding the facts as reported.

1) The Conservatives have won an arcane court battle with Elections Canada that will force the agency to accept a $591,000 cheque from the party.

2) "This may be the first time in history that a political party went to court to try to give money back to Elections Canada," said a Conservative memo released on Thursday.

3) The Conservatives say they had brought the application against Elections Canada in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice to prevent so-called "rebate double-dipping."

4) The Tories explained that "double-dipping" happens when political parties receive both a GST rebate and an Elections Canada rebate for the same campaign expenses.

5) Elections Canada did not want to accept the funds because the GST rebate is meant to offer financial support for political parties, which are listed as non-profit organizations.

6) Before the case went to trial, the country's chief electoral officer, Marc Mayrand, wrote a lengthy letter outlining his position: "Like the reimbursement of election expenses under the Canada Elections Act, (it) is intended as a form of support and does not serve to eliminate tax indebtedness."

7) Mayrand was also concerned that taking back the funds could result in an unfair advantage for some parties, because those that give back the rebate can then spend more on their election campaigns.

8) However, Justice H.J. Wilton-Siegel sided with the Tories, meaning that the party's 2004 and 2006 finances will now be rewritten to reflect the changes.

9) There had been speculation that the decision could force the Liberals to refund a similar amount to Elections Canada.

10) While the Tories say the gambit will save Canadian taxpayers money, the Liberals have said that the plan is anything but altruistic.

11) "We're looking into it, but at first glance it smells of Tories continuing to play partisan games with our institutions," Liberal party spokesman Dan Lauzon said in August, as the case wound its way through the court system.

13) A few months ago, the New Democrats said that they wouldn't be affected by the changes because their party had never applied for the rebate in the first place.

14) "(The Conservatives) obviously made a decision to apply for it and now they don't want it," said NDP spokesman Brad Lavigne.

15) On Aug. 26, 2008, the Tories offered to reimburse Elections Canada to the tune of $700,000. The offer was made only 12 days before Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that he would send Canadians back to the polls to vote in a snap election.

16) However, the sum was later reduced to $591,117.40, which has been sitting in trust since the court case began.

17) It isn't yet clear how much the legal costs are for both sides or if an appeal will be forthcoming.

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Over the past several Olympics some reporters have taken the time to tell us about the number of condoms supplied to the athletes by games officials. Considering this is generally a two week event, and many who participate in the first few days, do not stay around for the full two weeks, or those participating later don’t arrive till later, the numbers mentioned are astronomical. I can only raise the question of how many times each participant must perform. Either there are an awful lot of guys going home with sore bums or the gals are providing yeomen service, based on calculating the stats. It has to be the main event of the show for the athletes. No wonder they talk so much about the atmosphere at the Athletes village.

Is this really one of the reasons why all these so called representatives of our countries so value being selected to participate? Is this why it is such an honor? Just like Tiger, are these conquests another notch on their belt buckle? Not only can they say they competed for a medal, I laid/got laid by at least one hundred other athletes from all over the world. Apparently the participants in the treasured Olympic Games have this ability to remove themselves as role models when it suits them.

Are these games mostly about making life long friendships and bonding by treating sex like dogs bonking on the street corner? We either laugh about Tiger and his conquests, or some see him as a disgraced role model. Is it any wonder that some of the companies no longer want him representing their products and have dis-continued their association with him? Is this the same way the athletes at the Olympics carry on? What about the strong character it takes to perform at an Olympic level, and where does it disappear to? Is it not the purpose of the exercise to provide a forum where youth can develop better character and grow as a person? Or is this just a major excuse for a world wide love-in at a great expense to the tax payer.

All the good things about sports or what they are suppose to be, are brought into question by the actions of Tiger WOODS and place strong suspicions on many others. Tiger is not the only one; there has been a long history of athletes bragging about how many conquests they have had. No doubt there is mostly a willing partner, but when you here how many athletes payoff others for silence, it even creates more disgust. When Tiger and others, advertising for NIKE, purchase a town house in Dubai, solely as a tax haven for all international activities, and operate a foundation in United States as a further tax dodge, it even creates further questioning. One would expect that these individuals can pay taxes like the rest of us.

No matter how much an athlete works to qualify, they are then representing their country. It should be an honor, and if they can’t set aside their sexual impulses under these circumstances, then they have little right to be considered worthy of participating. As for the games organizers, by supplying condoms, they are also promoting this type of behavior. It is not the tax payer’s problem to pay for these types of things, just because there might be sexually transmitted diseases. Maybe the right thing is to have some consequences for this type of behavior. Lord knows sports have already taken a big enough hit and just maybe our athletes need to be held to a much higher standard for many obvious reasons.

Maybe it’s time to re-think how the games are handled. The costs to the tax payer, no matter which level of Government hands over the money, and the debt left behind is questionable. Yes, a few wealthy people make some more money on the backs of the general population. In addition, most of the manufacturers of sporting equipment, do so utilizing sweat shop labor in third world countries, ($1.25 per day) and then they use this forum for furthering their own interests. Why should the general public be expected to support this to the level they do?

These high level sporting events now seem to be so much a commercial adventure providing a forum where very expenses dope testing is required, athletes see it as an opportunity to have a love in, and corporations with very questionable methods of operation promote their sweat shop products. Just maybe they need to test for another performance enhancing drug.

Exposure of the sexual activity maybe seen as a very negative aspect, but the good character of participants is a must. How many spectators want to view the games wondering just how many conquests each has had and at what cost to us all?


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The HARPER LEGACY....DICTATORSHIP, plus unethical practices.
Harper is still pursuing a first majority. Meanwhile he's constructing a bold new edifice on his predecessor's suspect foundations.

Systematically, and without explanation, the Prime Minister is testing every limit on his power. Along with successfully shuttering Parliament for the second time, he's neutering committees charged with the primary democratic responsibilities of safeguarding the treasury and forcing the government to explain its actions. He's challenging independent rulings against how Conservatives funded their 2006 election and how this government treats Canadians in trouble abroad.

Politics is an uncompromising blood sport played to win within loose rules. By learning Liberal dirty tricks, adapting to changing circumstances and reinterpreting every regulation in his favour, Harper is proving to be a shrewd and accomplished contestant.

Far less clear is what he accepts as legitimate constraint, the line in the democratic sand not to be crossed.

Last year ministers threatened to go over the head of the de facto head of state if Governor General Michaëlle Jean allowed a coalition of "Liberals, socialists and separatist" to use their Commons majority to topple his minority. This winter Harper is essentially making the argument that Parliament is getting in the way of his government governing.

Come spring or fall, there will likely be another election, one that might well interfere with what the Prime Minister has in mind and could, if experience is a prognosticator, lead to yet another response outside the boundaries of shared Canadian experience.

Whatever happens in the coming months, one reality is inescapable. In taking politics to a different, hyper-controlling and partisan level, the Prime Minister is creating a dangerous legacy his successors will gratefully accept before turning it to their benefit.

Even if Conservatives are more comfortable than other Canadians with Harper's dark democracy, they along with the rest of us should be very afraid of what will happen when, as it will, the political worm turns.

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There Goes That Carefree Spring...

That's one positive thing you can say about the Harper PMO. It's nothing if not a hub of frenzied activity. Can you just picture all those Conservatives buzzing around preparing the unpleasant surprise for the opposition parties -- you guessed it -- the diagnosis goes something like this: take a poison-pill and bury it deep within a March budget.

The 39.5%-percent-crowd are positively giddy with anticipation...even the normally understated Prime Minister must have quite a spring in his step. Those guys think they've found the magic formula to deliberately provoke a spring election and pin it on the "hapless" opposition donkey.

But friends, none of us was born yesterday. You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Don't get me wrong, I'm not shy about mixing it up. Far from it. Being overly clever in my experience tends to lead to a lot of unforeseen interesting twists and turns. In short, re-election prognosis uncertain.

In conclusion, perhaps a word of friendly advice for the guys and gals over at Langevin. Think "ordering in bulk" as soon as you start running short of ASA!

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The book “The Creature From Jekyll Island”,  the Creature being  referred to, the US Federal Reserve Board and Jekyll being an Island off South Carolina owned by J.P. Morgan, where this money group met in 1913 and before, is about how they established a plan to legalize the “US Federal Reserve Board”. Most think it is a US Government Agency. The book has been updated six times to keep it current.  It goes into detail how this group secretly planned how to slide this through and have it become legal.  A Bill was introduced two days before Xmas in 1913 hidden with numerous other issues.  The House was half empty and there was no discussion.  Most people have know understanding of how the power in United Stated was then legally taken from the government and firmly placed in the hands of a few families.
What is even more disturbing, In Canada, and what very few know, or understand, is that in 1914, our Prime Minister Bennett, followed up with a Bill in the House of Commons, again two days before Xmas with the House half empty and attached to numerous other bills, a Bill was passed committing our Country and Provinces to paying interest plus exchange to the US Federal Reserve Board, on our National and Province debts.  This generally eats up all the Federal and Province Income Tax collected.  This is why our Governments also keep our National debt so high.  For this, I guess we get the backing of our dollar.  Or, we don’t get so openly attacked by their big corporations.  The book Creature From Jekyll Island clearly explains all this.  Right now we pay interest at 8% plus exchange which usually totals around 15%.

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Well, Excuse Me!

This just in from 660 News:

Psychic says Tories set for majority
Kelly Turner Jan 02, 2010 12:10:09 PM

Scandal, betrayal and a security breach.

Sound like something out of a movie?

According to psychic Blair Robertson it's what's going to happen in Ottawa this year.

As he gazes in to his crystal ball for 2010, he tells the Calgary Sun a major political leader will die in a plane crash this year although he's not sure if it will be a Canadian.

He also predicts Canadians will go to the polls in April and Stephen Harper will win a majority.

He says the Green Party's Elizabeth May will be involved in a false scandal and it will happen in about six months time.

Robertson was one of the first psychics to predict the current mess with golf great Tiger Woods.

Should this come to pass, you'll know where to find me -- bent over the bowl upchucking.

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Midnight Has Come And Gone.

And still no PMO Press Release on Senate appointments.

They're slipping! Are they waiting until we are all comatose???

Good Night, All.

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For some reason citizen’s in a recent CPAC poll still appear to believe that Harper is trustworthy. The question arises, are Canadian citizens functioning in an ethical vacuum or are they unaware of the provisions in the Constitution that perpetuate concentrated power within the office of the Prime Minister, and of how Harper has “with a little bit of help from his friends” circumvented accountability. Perhaps CPAC could conduct a new poll?

Draft Poll about knowledge of functioning of the Constitution, and about abuse of power

1. Do you know that the Governor General is appointed by the Prime Minister ?

2. Do you know that the Prime Minister can at any time request that the Queen appoint a new Governor General?

3. Are you familiar with Article V of the Governor Genera's Letters Patent which reads

4. Are you aware that in 2008, the Conservative Party was being investigated, by the Parliamentary Committee on Ethics and Access to Information, for fraudulent in and out funding schemes, which violated the Elections Act, during the 2006 election?

5. Are you aware that Harper’s office advised the 65 members that had been elected through this funding scheme to not appear before the Committee, and that the members were even advised to ignore supoenas issued by the Committee?

6. Are you aware that this investigation ended when the Governor General in 2008, rather than calling upon the other parties -which represented a majority- to govern, she granted Harper's wish for the dissolution of Parliament. Thus the Committee investigating Harper's in and out schemes was dissolved?

7. Are you aware that in 2008 after a Coalition among the Liberals and the NDP with the agreed to support by the Bloc was formed, and there was to be a non-confidence vote, that the Governor General granted Harper his wish to Prorogue Parliament?

8. Are you aware that in 2009, the Conservative Government was being investigated, for violation of the Convention Against Torture, by Parliamentary Committee?

9. Are you aware that in December 2009, Harper requested the Governor General to prorogue Parliament?

10 Are you aware that as a result of the Prorogation, the investigation by the Committee ended?

11. Are you aware that, the minority Conservative government placed their logo on infrastructure grants?

12. Are you aware that under the Constitution, the Prime Minister and his appointed Cabinet, without going to Parliament, can adopt, sign, and ratify international agreements or refuse to adopt, sign and ratify?

13. Are you aware that as a result of the Prorogation, other bills such as C 311 regarding Climate Change was taken off the books?

14 Are you aware that Bill C 300 regarding standards of operation of Mining Companies C-300, a private member's bill that would impose sanctions on Canadian resource companies that violate human rights and environmental standards in foreign countries - was also taken off the books?

15 Are you aware that Canadian mining companies have been implicated not only in causing environmental devastation, but also in human rights violations and in the deaths of anti-mining protesters?

14. Are you aware that Dr Pachauri, the Chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change publicly called for Canada to discontinue production in the tar sands because of the tar sands major contribution to Greenhouse gas emissions, and to commit to at least the reduction of Greenhouse gas emission by 25% below 1990 levels by 2020?


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Nanos where is my Twitter Get , I do not see it on my Facebook, get your system working or get rid of it.

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Here's why and how Iggy can win the next election. This article clearly spells out a mantra I have had about Harper. He cannot be trusted and he cannot truly embrace all Canadin voters or even enough to ever give him a majority. He is clearly a man from the dark side and the scandals will keep on coming:

"Richard Nixon was re-elected with 60 per cent of the vote. Why can't Stephen Harper do that? Indeed, why can't Stephen Harper's Conservatives lastingly get above 38 per cent in polls, his 2008 election result?

The answer, I think, lies in the fact that Mr. Harper's government lacks this ability to move onto their opponents' ground and to make it theirs.

There is nothing in Mr. Harper's approach that disarms his opponents, fundamentally broadens his party's base, or changes the game. Once the current half-hearted stimulus program is wound up, Mr. Harper has committed his government to spending all of Canada's available resources on tax cuts, and is otherwise committed to inaction on all important issues. That is an accountant's agenda – an exercise in bean counting and dismantlement – not an inspiring "big tent" that can appeal beyond the Conservative party's core vote.

Further, while Mr. Harper has none of Mr. Nixon's ability to appeal beyond his base he has a touch of Mr. Nixon's dark side. Mr. Harper is capable of campaigning using anti-French Canadian code words, as we saw last fall. And he would directly break his political opponents if he could, as we also saw last fall.

To have many of Richard Nixon's darker instincts and few of his smarter ones does not serve our Prime Minister well. Mr. Harper and his government do not understand an electoral fundamental that his ideological ancestor did superbly well in at least one level of his layer-cake personality: if you want a big vote, pitch a big tent.

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I like these odds and will take the bet that dirty potty mouthed Harper cannot destroy Iggy: ... le1417679/

I haven't read a single non-partisan pundit who has predicted anything for Ignatieff that differs from the "he's done" prediction for 2010 (and if there have been any, I apologize and blame the poor clip-service here in Malta).

It’s all harsh stuff.

So if everyone believes it to be true, isn't that, if I'm being consistent, in and of itself a reason to explore the alternative?

Let me start the ball rolling; being underestimated in politics is the greatest gift your opponent can give you.

The fact that Michael Ignatieff enters 2010 as a political fait accompli according to his opponents and pundits, isn't that a gift? Proof one: Jean Chrétien. Proof two: Stephen Harper.

Falling into even deeper partisan reasoning, Michael Ignatieff has no ideas? What happens when he starts rolling out some smart thoughts that speak to a broad coalition of Canadians? I guess the game could change.

He's just visiting? What about when he shows up in Thunder Bay in mid-February? And then the 'Peg at minus 40. And then the Gaspé. And then. No visitor would ever do this. Ever.

In other words, what happens if six months from now all the pundits are writing that the same Michael Ignatieff is connecting with a broad coalition of Canadians based on a specific set of well-thought-through ideas while working harder than any other politician in Canada? Might that put an end to Ignatieff's future making cappuccinos?

My point is not to minimize the Liberal Party's challenges entering 2010. They're big and real.

I just think the certainty with which certain pundits are painting the way the new year will unfold for Ignatieff may bite some of our national experts in their collective butts.

The alternative is 2010 will unfold exactly as we all think it will sitting here at the start of January.

Want to bet on that?

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If this rumour is true,

Just how will this play with the Liberals and their coalition partners the Bloc and NDP, as I can already hear the wailing all the way from Ottawa here in Toronto and I am sure that this will not go over very well as this limit the Liberals even more.

It would appears that the ducks are being placed all in order for March, when the Liberals and their coalition partners will be given the chance to send this Government packing or roll over and play dead once again.

I will make this observation that Mr. Ignatieff must now wish that he had been able to exercise some control over his party, starting with the NFLD rebellion, Mr. Codierre, the riding associations in Quebec, the Long gun registry, HST, Mr. Rae and now the Senate changing the bills passed by the house.

If the Liberals Senators had not acted as they had, Mr. Harper would not have acted as he had and the Liberals would not have to duck all these hard balls that they cannot hit.

Tongue and cheek to RonaldODowd,

From the CBC Kady O'Malley

But let's leave aside the issue of Senate committees for a moment, and consider the even more intriguing possibility that the prime minister is poised to invoke Section 26 of the Constitution Act, and appoint not five, but thirteen new Conservative senators, thus giving his party an absolute majority in the Red Chamber, with 59 seats out of 113.

Globe and Mail, Gloria Galloway.

But here’s the speculation proffered by the Parliamentary geeky and infinitely wise Kady O’Malley of the CBC who points out that the appointment of 13 Conservative senators is not beyond the realm of possibility. That, of course, would put the PM in the driver’s seat in the Senate for a long time to come.

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First the provincial Tory name disappeared in Quebec a long time back and then recent years in Sask. with the ascent of the Sask. party and now there are defectors from the Tories in Alberta to wild Rose.

The Tory name is fast becoming instinct across the land and it will soon happen federally once Harper is through destroying it there.

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Pollster doubts prorogation will raise public hackles,

Tuesday, January 5, 2010 8:01 AM, Gloria Galloway, Globe and Mail.

When is a story not a story, well it would appear that when it is a story being generated by the media on behalf of the Liberals as the prorogation appears to have as much resonation with the Canadian public as the detainee non abuse and non torture story did and all those other Liberal "stories" that they have been putting out for the past year or more.

In March, Mr. Ignatieff will be faced once again with either breaking his word and joining the coalition members in bring down the Government or rolling over and playing dead as did he and Mr. Dion have now done on four occasions.

And as RonaldODowd said to rough and tumblee, we will see.

1) But Nik Nanos of Nanos Research says you don’t need a bunch of surveys to tell you that prorogation is unlikely to have a significant influence upon voting behaviour.

2) “Will this annoy the opposition parties? Absolutely,” Mr. Nanos said in a telephone interview. “Will the opposition parties believe that this is a broader narrative of the government using Parliament to its own political devices? Absolutely.”

3) But the average Canadian is unlikely to be riled by a two-month break from partisan politics, he said. “Especially since, from the perspective of voters, there really isn’t a big issue that requires the emergency attention of the House of Commons.”

4) It’s pretty clear, said Mr. Nanos, that Mr. Harper invoked prorogation for the second time in just over a year “to clear the deck for two months so that the opposition parties don’t have a platform to attack or question the government.”

5) That’s a very clever communications move, he said. “It’s kind of like poking the opposition parties with another short stick.”

6) But whining about the House not sitting is unlikely to score points with the voting public, Mr. Nanos said.

7) What is likely to register, he said, is the notion that the Conservatives have given themselves a two-month vacation. “Talking substantively about what this means for Parliament and Parliament’s work would probably be a better angle” for an opposition that wants to chip away at government support, the pollster suggested.

8) Meanwhile, if Mr. Harper does not have plans to go into an election immediately shortly after the return of the House in March, he should prepare for a rough ride, Mr. Nanos added.

9) The Conservatives, he said, “are poisoning the well even before the next session starts because the opposition parties are going to be stewing for eight weeks and when they come back in the House, you can rest assured that it will be a raucous and very highly charged partisan atmosphere.”

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It would appear from the words of the leader of the offical oppostion Mr. Ignatieff has decided that the straw that has been said to be breaking the camels back is really nothing more than a "straw man" built by the media in order to try and improve the Liberals numbers as they seem unable to do so themselves as they are lacking any public policy to bring to Canadians.

However he did say "is making clear that this need not provoke an election" which does leave the door open to break his word to Canadians once again...or is Mr. Ignatieff the new "Anut Sally" of Canadian politics who is trying to make the argument based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

Mr. Ignatieff, who is embarking on a major tour of Canadian university and college campuses next week, is making clear that this need not provoke an election, as some pundits have suggested Harper is seeking.

"Shutting down Parliament has raised speculation about a spring election."

"Certainly, there is no need for an early election."

"Three in less than six years is enough for the next while. In case anyone missed it, I got that message loud and clear from Canadians last fall. "

"And that message was not only addressed to me,"

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The Thorn For Harper In The Wildrose.

Well, Danielle Smith, you seem to be off to a flying start. Next you'll be getting official party status -- after all, the NDP got it with only two members.

Is it out of the question that Wildrose might form government next time? I guess that depends on whether Ed Stelmach sticks around for any considerable period of time. Perhaps the Progressive Conservatives can save the day under a new leader but all bets are off from this point on.

Now for the rich irony of it all. Notice how this Prime Minister has distributed VERBOTEN signs to all his ministers, MPs and Senators. Not for nothing. The last thing Harper wants to see is the rebirth of Reform under a new guise at the federal level. He knows that if that takes off that his goose, like the Progressive Conservatives before him, will be cooked in the West.

As Preston would say: "Think Big!" By all means, please lay the groundwork for going national. Do this country a favour and help the PM along in his retirement plans! Harper is tired. He needs a good extended rest in Calgary.

Come on, flash a few thorns Ottawa's way. You won't regret it but Harper surely will.

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Now what are we seeing, well the poll numbers are starting come out and they do not appear to very good for the Liberals and their coalition partners and I can hardly wait for the r.a.t. to come out of his hole on this one.

From the poll.

1) Overall, opinion is fairly split over whether proroguing Parliament was the right or wrong decision a year ago.

2) A plurality of Canadians (43%) said it was the right decision where as 38% thing it was the wrong decision.

With Mr. Nanos showing that 39.5% of Canadian supporting the Conservatives and the recent C.P.H.D. showing only 38% of Canadians disapproving of the prorogation it would appear that the Liberals have once again miscalculated and have been out manoeuvred once again by the Conservatives.

This would also indicate that support for the Conservative action is crossing party lines and that once again shows that the Liberals message once again is not resonating with Canadians as they cannot even convince their own part base to support the media and the Liberal coalition`s actions and partisan propaganda.

I will note once again, that all the hype presented in and by the media has had the same impact as the H1N1 and Detainee issues as Canadians are tuning out the Liberals and their media friends and are forming their own opinions and that is not good for the Liberals.

Canadian Press and Harris Decima Poll, December 30, 2009.

PS to the r.a.t. remember that this is the polling company that you declared as the most accurate of all the polling companies, do you not hate it when your words come back to bit you on your many "tales".

1) According to Senior Vice-President Doug Anderson “Looking back on when Parliament was prorogued a year ago, Canadians have divided opinions over whether it was a good or bad idea. But asked how they would feel if Parliament was prorogued now until after the Olympics, we find widespread apathy about it this time.

2) There is clearly not the same level of passion about the issue this time.

3) There is likely less of a sense that the move is exceptional or likely to have a major impact one way or another.

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Is Mr. Ignatieff a dead man walking, as I am reading more and more versions of a quiet whisper campaign that never seems to go away and that campaign always appears to be Mr. Rae and his version of the Coalition part 1.5?

As more and more columnist are writing the same story one has to question, just how true are the rumours never seem to go away.

Is there smoke or is there fire and will the Liberal pull another coup de grace on Mr. Ignatieff and will this one have the appreance of being as bloodless as the Mr. Dion coup de grace or will there be blood on the streets of Toronto and Montreal as the two main factions within the Liberal party go to war over the Leadership.

I can see the Conservatives rubbing their hands in glee at the prospective of an NDP Liberal coalition lead by Mr. Rae and determining if the Conservative will be able to pull a Mr. Chrétien on Mr. Rae as Mr. Chrétien did to Mr. Day and there are just far too MMachiavellian twist and turns to name them all.

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Over the top and nothing personal, but I have decided to act as the provocateur extreme on this issue and besides most of it is directed at the r.a.t. to try and train his instincts.

I decided to see keep my powder dry on this one as did not want to shoot myself in the foot so I waited until I saw some polling numbers and I must say that it would appear that the Liberals have misread the public mood again.

With C.P. and H.D. reporting that only 38% of Canadians are indicating that the prorogation was wrong and the huge number of Canadians expressing an indifference to the question and this result after a full blown all out media attack on the Conservatives, it appears that the days of crying wolf and fire is now dead among Canadians.

I would caution the Liberals from their continue reliance of trying to create a narrative message where there is not one as this action on their part is most likely to be reflected in even higher conservatives numbers once again.

As you may recall the concentrated Liberal, NDP, Bloc and media blitz on the detainee and H1N1 issue, only resulted in the Conservatives moving back into majority range again and I can see the same outcome if the Liberals continue their program of hyper attack partisan propaganda and all they have to show for their action, is the dead man walking.

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Body-scanner decision 'speaks volumes about prorogation, Gloria Galloway, Tuesday, January 5, 2010 11:30 AM.

Did the NDP ask this question on behalf of the Liberals and Bloc? Or did they think this up all by themselves?

1) The decision to install full body scanners at Canadian airports should have been debated in the federal Parliament, a New Democrat MP said Tuesday.

2) “I think it speaks volumes about prorogation,” Dennis Bevington, the MP for Western Arctic said, referring to the fact the House of Commons has been suspended by the Conservative government until after the Vancouver Olympics.

3) “This sort of issue should actually be coming in front of the Transport committee.

4) We should have witnesses there describing the pros and cons of this very intrusive system.”

Hey Mr. NDP member, if you missed the news reports, people are wearing shoes and now underwear that can blow up planes and have tried to do that now on two occasions that we know of and what is there really needed to discuss.

5) But the scanners are already operating in other airports around the world and several countries, including Britain, the United States and the Netherlands, have recently said they would increase their numbers.

6)Chantal Bernier, the assistant federal privacy commissioner, said in October that Canada’s air security agency had successfully answered her office's questions about the project."

7) She pointed out that the holographic image generated by the scanner makes it difficult to identify the traveler's face."

Well those three important questions have been answered, so what do the Liberals, NDP and Bloc wish to talk about, the detainee issue perhaps.

8) LaPresse is reporting that Transport Minister John Baird’s office has confirmed the scanners will be installed at Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton and Halifax. The report did not name other cities that could also get the devices, which can see through clothing.

9) Mr. Baird will hold a press conference this afternoon to announce the measures, which are being introduced in reaction to tough new security restrictions being imposed by the United States.

10) The U.S. Transportation Security Administration already has directed airlines, effective Monday, to give full-body, pat-down searches to U.S.-bound travelers from Yemen, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia and 11 other countries.

That is fairly simple, but perhaps it is just too simple a solution for the Coalition and what do they need, for a plane to be blown from the sky and they then they would be able to say that the Conservatives did not protect Canadians, after all we have heard about Canadians dying from H1N1 and first nation children and body bags from this parties.

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Tuesday, January 5, 2010 10:21 AM, Liberal also-rans face 2006 debt woe, Gloria Galloway, Globe and Mail.

My oh my and is this not the busiest columnist around and what is she reporting now.

1) Leadership fund-raising issues continue to haunt the Liberals.

Why is this story still hanging as the fund-raising issue is from 2006.

2) According to a story by Glen McGregor in Canwest newspapers today, six MPs who ran for the Liberal leadership in 2006 - including eventual winner Stéphane Dion - have missed the year-end deadline to repay loans made to their campaigns.

The liberals have missed the year-end deadline to repay loans made to their campaigns, not once but several times now and the stand alone Elections Canada has allowed a number of extensions to be made.

3) Marc Mayrand, the chief electoral officer, had granted extensions to Mr. Dion as well as MPs Gerard Kennedy, Martha Hall-Findlay, Maurizio Bevilacqua, Joe Volpe and Hedy Fry that expired on New Year's Eve.

And yet another extension, just how many are there and why is Mr. Mayrand extending the Liberals this every generous act.

4) The candidates' inability to repay the loans has left them in something of a bind because Mr. Mayrand is not allowed to grant further extensions.

What do you mean, Mr. Maynard is not allowed offer extensions, how is that possible for a agency that is above partisan behaviour allowed to act so bluntly in favour of one politic party over another.

5) Now they must go to a judge and ask to be permitted to pay the loans, if they believe they can raise the money. If they don’t do that, the amounts owing will be considered campaign contributions and that will put them in violation of the Canada Election Act, which caps donations at $1,100 per contributor per campaign.

I wonder if Mr. Maynard will prosecute the Liberals with the same zeal that he has used with the Conservatives, as they are clearly in contravention of the Canada Elections Act and are so because of the action of Elections Canada in allowing extension when there should not have been any.

6) The caps, which were brought in by the Conservatives, make it difficult for candidates to raise funds because they must get small amounts from many individual donors.

Good thing they did,

7) But some of the Liberal leadership candidates have repaid their loans and closed the books on their bid. They include Leader Michael Ignatieff, and MPs Bob Rae, Carolyn Bennett and Scott Brison. MP Ken Dryden has until the end of June to repay his loans.

And still they have loans outstanding from 2006, the Liberal party must be made to pay the outstanding monies as soon as possible for this transgression by their members.

8) Dan Lauzon, a spokesman for the federal Liberal Party, told The Globe on Tuesday that the candidates who have not repaid their loans will be getting some help to sort out the problems they now face.

I wonder if the grass roots supporters will be made aware that the Liberal party will be using their donation to pay for the 2006 Leadership race.

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As the r.a.t. most likely is not aware, there are two sides to a debate and I will include the other half of the Silver / Power debate for his due miss-consideration and distortion and with keeping with his practice of not to adding comments to his cut and paste post, I will do the same.

Michael Ignatieff on arrogance? Tuesday, January 5, 2010 10:37 AM, Tim Powers, Globe and Mail

1) When it comes to arrogance Michael Ignatieff is an expert with oodles of credibility. This morning, in many places, the Liberal Leader has said this about the government, "The arrogance of the regime that thinks it can get away with anything."

2) When Iggy calls you arrogant it could be time to laugh or cry. I think I'll take the former.

3) Look in the mirror Mr. Ignatieff; you are the face of arrogance.

4) What the hell do you know about democracy? You are the anointed leader of the Liberal Party of Canada who just this time last year was a willing partner in the coalition.

5) Complain about and criticize prorogation (which according to Dan Cook a whopping 0.0006% of Canadians are raging about), that is fair game, but do it from a position of advantage so people will believe you.

6) You bemoaning arrogance is like Trudeau celebrating populism. And I dare say on articulating the views of the people Trudeau comes across as Homer Simpson compared to you.

7) As I am just visiting the United States today, (you know America... you once called it your country), I haven't seen if there is video for your "I have stared down arrogance speech."

8) If there is or were, I can only imagine it being as compelling as the "time is up" speech you gave at your caucus retreat in September. That one worked out well for you, didn't it?

9) You smartly stayed out of the Afghan detainee debate because of your controversial writings on coercive means.

10) You might want to watch your line of attack here too.

11) It might have a ricochet effect.

12) Bob Rae is always ready to help you out.

13) He is, after all, the face of the Liberal Party on the major debates of the day.

14) Hmm?

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Well, I have my answer from the National Post and it would appear that if the head of Elections Canada, Mr. Mayrand had not offered the Liberals an unprecedented 18 month extension at end of the June/July of 2008, the Liberal party would now be under investigation for their own in and out scheme by Elections Canada.

Funny how things work out, as the Liberal only have until the end of January to make things right to avoid an investigation into the Liberal campaign by Election Canada.

Now add in the $2.0 million dollars spent to introduce Mr. Ignatieff to Canadians as well as the current ruling in Ontario that will mean that the Liberals will have to repay the GST amounts they claimed in 2006 and 2008, monies that the Conservative had paid in compliance with Elections Canada, but the Liberals had not.

We see the Liberals’ and Tories’ alleged infractions as similarly significant. So the question presents itself: Why has Elections Canada chosen to treat them so differently?

Mr. Mayrand, we’re waiting for your answer.

Posted: July 31, 2008, 5:15 PM by Kelly McParland, Full Comment, National Post Editorial Board.

Meanwhile, however, candidates in the federal Liberal party’s 2006 leadership race still owe as much as $2.3-million in campaign expenses to banks and large donors — despite the fact that the 18-month deadline allowed by law for clearing such debts has passed

Under the Elections Act, these obligations should have been paid in full by June 3 of this year — 18 months after the leadership vote. Yet, for some reason, Chief Electoral Officer Marc Mayrand has given most of the candidates until the end of 2009 to make good. Ken Dryden has been given until the end of June, 2010.

From today`s article.

1) That would prove awkward for a party that has repeatedly hammered the ruling Conservative party for alleged violations of the elections law through "in and out" advertising purchases in the 2006 campaign.

2) As Mr. Mayrand is not allowed to grant further extensions, the candidates are left in a difficult position. If they can raise the money, they must now get permission from a judge to pay off their loans. Otherwise, the outstanding debts will be treated as campaign contributions under the law.

3) Because most of the loans were in five or six figures, the amounts that are converted to "deemed contributions" could be in violation of the Canada Elections Act, which caps donations at $1,100 per contributor per campaign.

4) Chief electoral officer Marc Mayrand had granted the candidates 18-month extensions to pay off debts, but the party admits that tough economic times and the recurring possibility of another election meant they couldn't meet the date.

5) "The party will assist the campaigns in co-ordinating the next steps to ensure full compliance with the act," Mr. Lauzon wrote. "'Next steps' include legal counsel."

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This is really not a good day for the Liberals and their coalition partners,

The Liberals, NDP, Bloc and Media may well have been misinforming Canadians on the effects on prorogation if the following story from Canadian Press is correct.

Now if this report is correct and there is no reason to believe otherwise, what of all the other bills will fall under the same procedural reforms introduced 15 years ago by the Liberals and how many will just pick up where they were left off.

This looks as if there is really only a 15 day delay in the business of the House of Commons and will have almost no impact on day to day operation and a whole lot of Liberal partisan programming is going on.

The Canadian Press, Date: Mon. Jan. 4 2010 9:50 PM ET, OTTAWA

1) Gun control advocates briefly hoped Prime Minister Stephen Harper's decision to prorogue Parliament would kill a controversial private member's bill to scrap the long gun registry.

2) But their hopes have been shot down, thanks to procedural reforms introduced 15 years ago.

3) The bill -- which was under examination by a parliamentary committee after winning first and second reading votes in the House of Commons -- will simply return at that stage once the new session of Parliament opens March 3.

4) Until the mid-1990s, proroguing or suspending Parliament wiped the legislative slate. All bills, no matter how many months they'd been debated or how close they'd been to passing, died on the order paper.

5) If the government wanted to bring back a bill in the new session of Parliament, it had to start all over again from square one. But that's no longer the case.

6) Private members' bills, such as Manitoba Tory MP Candice Hoeppner's gun registry bill, are all automatically reinstated at the same point in the legislative process where they left off.

7) Government-sponsored bills require the majority consent of the Commons to be reinstated but that's typically been accomplished with little trouble.

8) "For a fleeting moment, I was hopeful (the gun registry bill was dead) but it was clarified pretty quickly," said Wendy Cukier, president of the Coalition for Gun Control.

9) "We got lots of joyful email and then we looked into it further and realized that we were no further ahead than we were before."

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I would have to say that this is democracy in action as a non partisan Government agency has been taken to court and has been found to have acted in an illegal manner by a non partisan Judge and has been order to follow Election Canada guidelines.

The question for all those Liberals out there?

Will Elections Canada now that they have lost this round in their protracted prosecution of the Conservatives step back and not appeal this decision or will Elections Canada continue pursue their alleged vendetta against the Conservatives in yet another court this time in Justice Luc Martineau.

Time will tell.

Elections Canada reviewing Tory court victory, The Canadian Press, Date: Monday Jan. 4, 2010 4:53 PM ET

OTTAWA — Elections Canada says it is reviewing the implications of a court ruling that effectively raises the campaign spending limits for the major federal political parties.

The New Year's Eve judgment by the Ontario Superior Court of Justice sided with the Conservative party -- and agreed the party must be allowed to repay taxpayers $591,000 in GST rebates from the 2004 and 2006 federal elections.

The Conservatives voluntarily called themselves out more than a year ago on what they described as a case of "rebate double-dipping." Justice Herman Wilton-Siegel concurred.

"I conclude that general election expenses must be presented net of any GST rebate to the extent required by (generally accepted accounting principles)," he wrote in his judgment.

Wilton-Siegel ruled that Parliament never intended to treat the GST rebate for non-profit organizations -- including political parties -- as a "subsidy." Rather, he wrote, the rebate is "simply a mechanism for administering the stipulated rate of tax" for such groups.

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The Disinformation Olympics.

Geez, who would have thought that little old Canada would in the space of a few weeks get to enjoy TWO Olympic events. One will take place in Vancouver and Whistler while the other seems to be in the planning stages in Ottawa.

I have to tip my hat to this government -- nice first round! How terribly convenient (for the Harper government) that its "Off-the-record" insiders are in such a talkative mood! Must be nice feeding the press gems like this, as reported by the Canadian Press:

By Joan Bryden (CP) –

OTTAWA — Forget all that speculation about a spring election.

Stephen Harper has no intention of calling an election or engineering the defeat of his minority government any time soon, say insiders close to the prime minister. "The chances of hell freezing over in March are better than us doing something to trigger an election," one source said flatly.

"There's no appetite (for an election) in the government, there's no appetite in the PM and there's no appetite in the Canadian public."

Rather, Harper intends to keep his focus resolutely fixed on the "issues that matter to Canadians," first among which is steering the country through the fragile economic recovery, said the insider on condition of anonymity.


Insiders say Harper has no intention of taking such a risk. He won't call an election and he won't include any "poison pills" in the budget in a bid to engineer defeat of his government.


Well, isn't that just too cute for words. How considerate of the PMO to be telegraphing for all to see its political intentions. Trouble is, if these comments are presented in good faith, why must the identities of the insiders be kept from the public? Surely, such news could have been shared with Canadians through official channels...

I smell a rat. IMHO, the big fake-out lies ahead. After all, haven't Conservatives said in unison that if the Harper government goes down that the opposition parties would get to wear it, regardless of how it might happen?

Things aren't as they seem. That much you can count on.

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With Canadians not speaking out about prorogation, the Liberal Friendly media has gone into hyper partisan propaganda mode in support of the Liberals and their coalition partners.

Here are some of the headlines that we are seeing.

Toronto Star - House shut? Liberals to report for work anyway, Fun 'n' Games on Parliament Hill, PM downplays detainee scandal, and Travelers face 'virtual' strip search, NAFTA-gate re-emerges in book, Vent outrage at your local MP, Harper happy to play games with Parliament, Harper's dark democracy creates dangerous legacy, Why quiet is good for Stephen Harper, Harper acting like an elected dictator, Tory zealotry unhelpful to Israel and Canada,

Globe and Mail - Senate hardly the biggest obstacle to Tory crime bills, Budget officer vows to report without Parliament, Proroguing is for children (and Stephen Harper), ‘They're not fooling anyone', Will this Liberal contest work out better than the last?, Stephen Harper to break his silence,

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A liberal provides 25 excellent reasons as to why the Conservatives are still Government and the Liberals are still wandering in the waste lands of opposition and why they are going to stay there.

Canadian politics, Jeff Jedras: Posted: January 04, 2010, 11:40 AM by NP Editor.

Headline; Still waiting for that Liberal leadership moment.

1) I share the displeasure of my Liberal and progressive brethren with Stephen Harper’s decision to prorogue parliament.

2) And going back to the first leadership race, Michael Ignatieff does have a definite history of taking vacations and going on media blackouts at the most inopportune times. I think there was a week in 2006 his staff couldn’t even find him.

3) And it happened again last summer until he launched the Hiding in Plain Sight Tour. Opposition leaders don’t get vacations, Michael.

4) So it’s been left to the likes of Ralph Goodale and Bob Rae to go in front of the cameras and provide the obligatory clips of outrage about how upset we are about the decision to prorogue, how it’s an affront to democracy, how he’s hiding from his incompetent and duplicitous handing of the Afghan detainee, thwarting the democratic will of parliament and its order to produce documents, and so on.

5) And they've done that well. But it was certainty a missed opportunity for Ignatieff to have been front and centre in the media spotlight.

6) My question though is still what it was a few days ago: to what end? Whether it’s Rae and Goodale or Ignatieff up front providing the outrage quotes (probably more so if it’s the leader and not a surrogate) I’m still left to wonder “OK, you’re pissed off. Me too. Now what are you going to do about it?”

7) Putting Ignatieff up on this issue would have made that question even more pointed, and I’ve yet to hear any credible suggestions on that front.

8) Short of forcing an election which we’d most likely lose (although the Conservatives may want to precipitate a spring vote anyway, is the latest speculation) our options are decidedly limited.

9) Apparently some folks are planning protest rallies for Jan. 23.

10) And Coyne wants opposition MPs to hold their own unofficial parliament in a bowling alley or something; interesting, and theatrical, if a bit (or a lot) of a stunt.

11) I’m all for raising the issues that need to be raised, and for calling attention to grievous injustices and perversions of democracy.

12) And I'm open to creative suggestions on that front. My bigger concern though is that we’re in no position to actually do anything about it.

13) Even if people were ready to turn on the Harper Conservatives, even if this could be the proverbial straw that breaks the camel’s back, four-plus years of farting around as a party means it’s very unlikely we’d be able to capitalize.

14) We haven’t done the work needed for Canadians to turn to us when they’re displeased with Harper.

15) That’s because for far too long now long (going back multiple leaders) we’ve been focused on the tactical.

16) We’ve hungrily leapt at every scandal and Harper miscue and bitten-in hard, wanting to believe it was our ticket back to our rightful place in the seat of power.

17) Yet, at every turn, we’ve been unable to capitalize on each of a litany of Conservative scandals, faux-pas, screw-ups, miscues and arrogant decisions.

18) No bump in the polls. No lasting increase in support. Why is that? It’s not because Harper is so dammed loveable.

19) It’s because, compared to the alternatives, he still has more appeal to most Canadians because a) he’s the devil they know, and b) we haven’t given them a reason to vote for us.

20) Until we do, until we finally, at long last, stop looking for the easy home-run, but instead re-build our brand and develop our leader and start giving Canadians a reason not just to vote AGAINST the Conservatives, but to vote FOR us, them we’re just spinning our wheels.

21) And all the Conservative scandals in the world won’t help us.

22) He gets away with it time and time again not because we won’t fight, but because we’re too weak to stop him.

23) I want Harper gone as badly as anyone.

24) That’s why, while we can get rightfully worked-up over this prorogument, I’d much rather we ALSO finally move past the tactical and do the strategic heavy-lifting around policy, vision and leadership (like finding some) so that when Harper pulls crap like this, we can call him on it and be in a position to actually do something more about it then provide sound bites of outrage for the political magazine shows.

25) It’s all well to fight and die for the noble cause. I’d rather fight and win.

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A Conservative provides 31 excellent reasons as to why the Conservatives are still Government and the Liberals are still wandering in the waste lands of opposition and why they are going to stay there.

Part One

1) Prime Minister Stephen Harper's latest prorogation of Parliament is an example of hardball tactics, similar to Jean Chrétien's prorogation in December, 2003, which allowed him to avoid Quebec sponsorship questions until Paul Martin could take over. Of greater long-term interest is the higher-level political strategy that has allowed Mr. Harper to stay in power for four years.
2) The 2003 merger of the Canadian Alliance and the Progressive Conservatives turned the tables in Canadian politics.

3) Before then, the Liberals formed majority governments by winning 38 to 41 per cent of the vote against a divided right.

4) Now, the Conservatives form minority governments by winning 36 to 38 per cent of the vote against an even more badly divided left. As long as the Liberals, New Democrats, Blocquistes and Greens fight among themselves for the left-of-centre vote, the Conservatives continue to win.

5) The Tories follow three strategic principles to stay in power.

6) The first is polarization, which allows them to divide and conquer.

7) They seize issues on which the opposing parties are all on the left of the debate, so they can have the right to themselves.

8) For example, the long-gun registry, whose dismantling the other parties oppose; global warming, where only the Conservatives espouse the economically grounded approach of tracking American policy; and Afghan detainees, where the Conservatives stand by the Canadian Forces, while the other parties ask whether General Walt Natynczyk, Chief of Defence Staff, and Rick Hillier, his predecessor, are war criminals. Such polarized positioning is perfect for the next election.

9) But politics is more than the stagecraft of campaigning; it also involves the statecraft of governance, which includes passing legislation through Parliament.

10) Here things become complicated for Conservative minority governments, for they have no natural partners.

11) The NDP and Bloc Québécois are too remote ideologically to be more than occasional allies.

12) The Liberals under Michael Ignatieff's leadership are close enough on many issues, but, as the Conservatives' main rival for government, they are not reliable partners.

13) Thus arise the two other strategic principles for the Conservatives' management of Parliament.

14) They must compromise when necessary to form ad hoc alliances to preserve power.

15) Mr. Harper found a rapprochement with the NDP in the fall, after Mr. Ignatieff's disastrous announcement that he would seek an early election.

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A Conservative provides 31 excellent reasons as to why the Conservatives are still Government and the Liberals are still wandering in the waste lands of opposition and why they are going to stay there.

Part two,

16) Now that the chastened Liberals will probably support the next budget, the Conservatives can veer away again from the NDP.

17) Put differently, the principle of forming temporary alliances means that the Conservatives must never provoke the three opposition parties to gang up on them in the House of Commons (except for minor stakes such as unenforceable resolutions).

18) This rule must be seared into the Prime Minister's brain after he violated it in December, 2008.

19) He threatened to cut off public subsidies for political parties and was almost turned out of office by a short-lived coalition of Liberals, New Democrats and Blocquistes.

20) But tacking back and forth among the opposition parties, forming tactical alliances as required to keep power, cannot work long if those parties are spoiling for an election. Hence arises the third principle of Conservative political management:

21) Always keep at least one of the three opposition parties afraid of an election, so that you don't have to wage a campaign except at a time of your own choosing.

22) So far, the Conservatives have been successful in this.

23) Remarkably, in almost four years of Tory power, the three opposition parties have never voted together to deny confidence and force an election.

24) Someone's always been afraid.

25) Implementing this principle has meant adopting the strategic doctrine of “permanent campaign,” the most visible manifestation of which has been the waves of paid advertising directed at Liberal leaders and policies.

26) Traditionally in Canadian politics, advertising has been a campaign weapon, but it has proved just as effective in avoiding campaigns as in winning them.

27) Yet paid advertising is only the most visible manifestation of the Conservative doctrine of permanent campaign.

28) There is much, much more behind the scenes: a campaign manager always on duty and reporting directly to the Prime Minister; contracts for planes, buses and war-room facilities; grassroots fundraising and voter identification 363 days a year (no calls on Christmas and Easter).

29) Indeed, the fundraising makes it possible to maintain all the other aspects of the expensive model of permanent campaign.

30) Permanent campaign is the equivalent of the military concept of deterrence. In the words of the old Roman adage, if you want peace, prepare for war.

31) It's not always pretty, but it works.

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Once again the Liberals find themselves branded, by their do as I say not as I do and provide yet another excellent example of that good old fashion Liberal hypocrisy that is always so near the surface.

The question of Mr. Ignatieff absence once again now appears to raise the question, that if the action of Mr. Harpers Government has so imperilled Canada`s Democracy - why has Mr. Ignatieff taken this time off for a holiday at the moment of Canada's greatest need or is this just another example of hyper partisan Liberal profaned propaganda.

And there are other questions that one needs to ask,

1) Is Mr. Ignatieff really on holidays or is the Liberal party hiding him?

2) Is he in hiding from Mr. Rae and the long awaited coup de grace?

3) Is he planning his long walk in the snow?

Well time will tell and stay tuned as this story is not over as the Liberals plot against themselves as often as they do against the Conservatives and with much better sucess.

The Canadian Press, Date: Wednesday Jan. 6, 2010 7:38 AM ET.

OTTAWA — It was a lesson in why politicians in glass houses shouldn't lob stones.

The contest immediately prompted Harper's office to point out that the prime minister is not, in fact, on vacation, whether or not Parliament is sitting. He was working in his office Monday and Tuesday and gave an interview on Tuesday afternoon. The prime minister is slated to be in Atlantic Canada later this week.

By contrast, Harper spokesperson Dimitri Soudas said: "Michael Ignatieff is still on holidays in Europe and his staff is hard as work dreaming up useless contests."

Ignatieff's office refused to say precisely where the leader is, other than to say that he's "away with his family."

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If the thoughts of many Canadians here in Saudi Arabia are any indication Harper is a dead man walking. I was at a reception earlier (Thursday AM here) last evening and people kept asking me why we put up with Harper. They feel the libs should just go for it and turf the cons ASAP.

I see that as a good sign that canadians far and wide se this clown for what he is.

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It appears that Harper has hoof and mouth again now suggesting he will unilaterally reform the senate without first asking the provinces what they think. The provinces have full control over how the reform can occur and won't be playing his game.

This is one more reason that the word "democracy' needs to be brought into the reformatory dictionary. Harper manages like he's in charge but the provinces are not afraid of the federal Tory thugs and will take him on and whip his butt.

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Speaking about polls, there is a new one out from Ekos and it will be interesting to compare the trends in that poll to Mr. nanos next poll.

There are 25 areas that Ekos tracks and the Conservatives continue to lead in eighteen of the twenty five and are in a statistically tied in four of the seven areas that the Liberal lead in and the Liberals are statistically tied in one that the Conservatives lead.

The Liberals lead in Female voters 30.5% to 28.9%, Toronto 42.7% to 31.5%, ON 36. % to 35.4%, Born outside of Canada 35.8% to 33.9%, Quebec 27.5% to 14.6%, Montreal 32.1% to 13.9%, French speaking 25.0% to 15.1%.

The recent poll must be of continuing concern to the Liberals as they are increasing their polling numbers in these areas but have not seen a bump in their national numbers and that would indicate that outside of the two urban strongholds, the Liberal vote is continuing to erode.

Considering that the Liberals have half of the seats on the Island of Montreal and all but two in Toronto and then factor in the large populations in Montreal and Toronto that was born outside of Canada as well as the large number of university educated in those two cities, there is little seat benefit to the Liberals as increased numbers will not translate into additional seats for the party.

From the Conservative prospection, while they have seen an erosion in their polling numbers, the decline at this time appears to be in areas that will not affect any seat losses as they do not hold seats in Toronto, Montreal and the seats that they hold in Quebec should be safe, although I would prefer to see numbers on that city.

The one area of concern for the Conservatives would be in BC, where they have seen the biggest drop in support with 7.6% in BC and from 39.5% to 35.9% in Vancouver.

However that number has not moved to the Liberals who are up just 1% and from the numbers it would appear that a large percentage has moved to the NDP, who has seen their numbers move from 25.3% to 28.8% in BC and from 26.8% to 31.7% in Vancouver.

The other areas that need to be noted is that the sample size is only 1,491 which is the smallest sample size that I can recall from this polling company and the poll was carried over only two days, Jan 4th and 5th in place of the usual one week period.

MOE 2.35% +/- 01/05/2010,

71.49% increase 12/17/2009, 54.9% increase 11/26/2009, 72.3% increase 11/05/2009

MOE 1.68% +/- 12/17/2009,
MOE 1.29% +/- 11/26/2009
MOE 1.70% +/- 11/05/2009

Sample Size

01/05/2010 - 1,491
12/17/2009 - 2,984
11/26/2009 - 5,759
11/05/2009 - 3,327


01/05 Conservatives 33.1%, Liberals 27.4%;
1217 Conservatives 35.9%, Liberals 26.7%;
11/26, Conservatives 36.9%, Liberal 27.1%;
11/05 Conservatives 37.4%, Liberals 26.8%;

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Here are the Numbers fro the last four polls for anyone who is interested and it will be interesting to compare the trends in that poll to Mr. Nanos next poll and see if they are the same.

Part two

01/05 Conservatives 34.2%, Liberals 21.4%;
1217 Conservatives 35.0%, Liberals 23.6%;
11/26, Conservatives 36.2%, Liberal 23.2%;
11/05 Conservatives 41.8%, Liberals 20.1%;
01/05 Conservatives 61.7%, Liberals 15.0%;
12/17 Conservatives 60.7%, Liberals 13.9%;
11/26, Conservatives 55.6%, Liberal 21.1%;
11/05 Conservatives 62.8%, Liberals 17.5%;
01/05 Conservatives 48.6%, Liberals 12.4%;
12/17 Conservatives 53.1%, Liberals 17.6%;
11/26, Conservatives 53.5%, Liberal 18.2%;
11/05 Conservatives 49.3%, Liberals 19.9%;
01/05 Conservatives 35.4%, Liberals 36.0%;
12/17 Conservatives 39.0%, Liberals 33.5%;
11/26, Conservatives 39.3%, Liberal 33.4%;
11/05 Conservatives 39.6%, Liberals 33.6%;
01/05 Conservatives 14.6%, Liberals 27.5%;
12/17 Conservatives 17.1%, Liberals 24.6%;
11/26, Conservatives 22.0%, Liberal 22.7%;
11/05 Conservatives 19.6%, Liberals 24.3%;
01/05 Conservatives 32.6%, Liberals 28.4%;
12/17 Conservatives 35.2%, Liberals 31.2%;
11/26, Conservatives 35.1%, Liberal 32.5%;
11/05 Conservatives 33.4%, Liberals 32.9%;
01/05 Conservatives 37.4%, Liberals 25.0%;
12/17 Conservatives 41.5%, Liberals 24.7%;
11/26 Conservatives 40.9%, Liberal 25.0%;
11/05 Conservatives 41.4%, Liberals 25.3%;
01/05 Conservatives 28.9%, Liberals 30.5%;
12/17 Conservatives 30.3%, Liberals 28.7%;
11/26, Conservatives 32.8%, Liberal 29.2%;
11/05 Conservatives 33.6%, Liberals 28.3%;
01/05 Conservatives 24.6%, Liberals 24.0%;
12/17 Conservatives 21.1%, Liberals 27.2%;
11/26, Conservatives 21.0%, Liberal 24.7%;
11/05 Conservatives 25.4%, Liberals 24.9%;
25 - 44
01/05 Conservatives 27.7%, Liberals 27.3%;
12/17 Conservatives 31.0%, Liberals 25.5%;
11/26 Conservatives 32.3%, Liberal 26.7%;
11/05 Conservatives 39.7%, Liberals 26.8%;
45 - 64
01/05 Conservatives 33.0%, Liberals 28.1%;
12/17 Conservatives 40.5%, Liberals 26.7%;
11/26, Conservatives 40.8%, Liberal 26.7%;
11/05 Conservatives 39.7%, Liberals 26.8%;
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01/05 Conservatives 48.8%, Liberals 30.1%;
12/17 Conservatives 44.7%, Liberals 28.8%;
11/26, Conservatives 48.3%, Liberal 28.8%;
11/05 Conservatives 51.2%, Liberals 26.5%;
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01/05 Conservatives 35.0%, Liberals 22.6%;
12/17 Conservatives 37.4%, Liberals 22.7%;
11/26, Conservatives 38.9%, Liberal 21.2%;
11/05 Conservatives 40.5%, Liberals 22.7%;
01/05 Conservatives 37.0%, Liberals 24.4%;
12/17 Conservatives 37.9%, Liberals 25.9%;
11/26, Conservatives 39.9%, Liberal 24.2%;
11/05 Conservatives 39.5%, Liberals 24.0%;
01/05 Conservatives 28.5%, Liberals 34.2%;
12/17 Conservatives 32.9%, Liberals 30.6%;
11/26, Conservatives 32.8%, Liberal 33.6%;
11/05 Conservatives 33.4%, Liberals 32.4%;
01/05 Conservatives 35.9%, Liberals 27.2%;
12/17 Conservatives 32.1%, Liberals 30.6%;
11/26, Conservatives 30.8%, Liberal 125.3%;
11/05 Conservatives 39.8%, Liberals 26.2%;
01/05 Conservatives 69.6%, Liberals 16.9%;
12/17 Conservatives 63.9%, Liberals 16.9%;
11/26, Conservatives 60.1%, Liberal 18.5%;
11/05 Conservatives 62.8%, Liberals 21.5%;
01/05 Conservatives 31.5%, Liberals 42.7%;
12/17 Conservatives 37.4%, Liberals 37.8%;
11/26, Conservatives 36.9%, Liberal 40.0%;
11/05 Conservatives 41.4%, Liberals 37.4%;
01/05 Conservatives 42.4%, Liberals 33.6%;
12/17 Conservatives 45.2%, Liberals 31.5%;
11/26, Conservatives 50.4%, Liberal 29.3%;
11/05 Conservatives 39.7%, Liberals 36.7%;
01/05 Conservatives 13.9%, Liberals 32.1%;
12/17 Conservatives 16.2%, Liberals 25.5%;
11/26, Conservatives 16.0%, Liberal 27.4%;
11/05 Conservatives 15.8%, Liberals 28.8%;
Born outside Canada.
01/05 Conservatives 33.9%, Liberals 35.8%;
12/17 Conservatives 32.4%, Liberals 38.7%;
11/26, Conservatives 34.7%, Liberal 36.9%;
11/05 Conservatives 39.5%, Liberals 34.1%;
Born inside Canada.
01/05 Conservatives 32.9%, Liberals 26.0%;
12/17 Conservatives 36.7%, Liberals 24.1%;
11/26 Conservatives 37.3%, Liberals 25.0%;
11/05 Conservatives 37.1%, Liberals 25.41%;
01/05 Conservatives 38.9%, Liberals 28.6%;
12/17 Conservatives 42.0%, Liberals 27.7%;
11/26, Conservatives 41.7%, Liberal 28.7%;
11/05 Conservatives 42.9%, Liberals 28.3%;

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It is becoming very clear that the reformatorts are slip slidin away. The trend is definitely moving south for them in a steady decline and Iggy is rightfully standing by quietly to let them do themselves in. It seems almost irreversible now with a two term minority government in a fiscal trap and with lies and scandals starting to smell very bad.

30% or less for them by end of January is my prediction.

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Even Harper's main supporters think he's done like toast:

"I don’t know whether former CBC-man Don Newman would agree, but I still think that Stephen Harper’s position will grow weaker after the HST is introduced in July in Ontario and British Columbia, and as the stimulus program gives way to the need for fiscal restraint in the 2011 budget. In fact, having served a premier and a prime minister on their way out of office, it looks to me as though Mr. Harper already has, as his priority, acquiring an additional year or two of contacts and of credential-burnishing experience before looking for his next job in the private sector."

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Can You Spell G-A-M-E- C-H-A-N-G-E-R?

At least one pundit predicted that Prorogation II would be a game-changer and I agree with that assessment.

Check out the latest EKOS poll done for the CBC:

Canadians following Prime Minister Stephen Harper's decision to prorogue Parliament were nearly twice as likely to oppose the move as favour it, an EKOS poll suggests.

The poll, released exclusively to CBC News on Thursday, found the majority of Canadians surveyed — 67 per cent — are at least somewhat aware of Harper's decision to prorogue, or shut down, Parliament until March.

Of those who were aware of the decision, 58 per cent opposed the move, the poll found. By comparison, 31 per cent of those polled supported the move. Opposition to the decision was highest among Liberal and NDP supporters and those with a university education.

"The initial evidence is that Canadians are indeed paying attention to the issue of prorogation, and they don't like it," said EKOS President Frank Graves.


63 per cent agree move is 'anti-democratic'

The EKOS poll also asked Canadians who were aware of the prorogation to choose which one of two statements most closely reflected their views.

Nearly two-thirds — 63 per cent — favoured the statement, "The elected house of Parliament is the proper place to conduct the business of the nation, and suspending Parliament is antidemocratic."

Just over a third favoured the statement, "By shutting down Parliament, Stephen Harper can consult directly with Canadians in preparation for the next federal budget."

Ouch! Better quickly put something on that boo-boo!!!!!!!!!

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Harper to Retire Soon (suspended multiple aliases)

Even ardent Harper supporters are admitting the end is near for Harper.

Thursday, January 7, 2010 7:14 AM

The beginning of the end for Stephen Harper
Norman Spector

I still think that Stephen Harper’s position will grow weaker after the HST is introduced in July in Ontario and British Columbia, and as the stimulus program gives way to the need for fiscal restraint in the 2011 budget. In fact, having served a premier and a prime minister on their way out of office, it looks to me as though Mr. Harper already has, as his priority, acquiring an additional year or two of contacts and of credential-burnishing experience before looking for his next job in the private sector.

The Prime Minister and those around him will deny it assiduously, if only to minimize any premature jockeying for position among the not inconsiderable number of Conservatives who see themselves living at 24 Sussex one day.

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Harper is an embarassment to Canada overseas and even to conservatives.

Thursday, January 7, 2010 12:47 PM

The Economist vents spleen
on PM's decision to prorogue
Gloria Galloway

The influential and mostly right-wing British magazine The Economist has taken a dim view of Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s decision to prorogue Parliament until after the winter Olympics.

“Mr. Harper’s move looks like naked self-interest,” the magazine said in a strongly-worded editorial entitled Harper Goes Prorogue that accompanied a longer story on the Canadian Parliamentary suspension.

“His officials faced grilling by parliamentary committees over whether they misled the House of Commons in denying knowledge that detainees handed over to the local authorities by Canadian troops in Afghanistan were being tortured. The government would also have come under fire for its lack of policies to curb Canada’s abundant carbon emissions.”

Mr. Harper is a competent tactician with a ruthless streak, the editorial said.

“He may be right that most Canadians care more about the luge than the legislature, but that is surely true only while their decent system of government is in good hands. They may soon conclude that it isn’t.”

The longer magazine piece points out that Mr. Harper chose Dec. 30, the day five Canadians were killed in Afghanistan and when the public and the press were further distracted by the announcement of the country’s all-important Olympic hockey team, to let his spokesman reveal that Parliament would remain closed until March 3 instead of returning as usual, after its Christmas break, in the last week of January.

Mr. Harper, the story said, clearly reckoned that giving legislators an extra winter break, during which they might visit the Winter Olympics, would not bother Canadians much.

But, suggested the magazine that once called Canada cool and dubbed former prime minister Paul Martin “Mr. Dithers,” Mr. Harper may have miscalculated.

“A gathering storm of media criticism has extended even to the Calgary Herald, the main newspaper in his political home city, which denounced him for ‘a cynical political play,’” said the story, pointing out that there are a host of demonstrations planned across Canada for the Saturday before Parliament was due to return following the Christmas break.

Proroguing Parliament twice in two years sets what many constitutionalists say is a dangerous precedent, the magazine said.

“The danger in allowing the prime minister to end discussion any time he chooses is that it makes Parliament accountable to him rather than the other way around.”

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Harper to Retire Soon (suspended multiple aliases)

EKOS poll out today shows CPC lead erodes 10% since mid October and 4% in the last three weeks. Canadians are waking up to the fact that Harper is a disgrace to Canada.

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Harper clinging to power, and now knows that a majority is "a fairy tale" as EKOS puts it. That is why he is now preparing for his next job -as Conseravative supporter Norman Spector points out in his latest column.

EKOS poll:

"Mr. Harper and his party “must be hearing footsteps,” the pollster said. “Instead of pondering how their majority is going to work out, they are closer to sitting on the other side of the House.”

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Heading them off at the pass, as the Conservatives box in the Liberals, NDP and Bloc once again and shows them how a good Democary works by asking the people and I wonder if the CBC and the Toronto Star can get a poll done in two days to see how Canadians react to this excellent news.

1) The Harper government is asking Canadians what Ottawa's spending priorities should be in the lean times when the recession deficits have to be whittled away.

2) In the run-up to last year's budget, Ottawa asked Canadians how it should spend money.

3) This time, Canadians will be asked to look beyond the 2010 budget, and tell the government how it should tighten its belt.

4) The first session comes Friday when Prime Minister Stephen Harper holds an economic roundtable with business leaders in Saint John. Next week, a broader, government-wide consultation will begin.

5) While it might seem politically unwise for governments to talk about the pain to come, the populist touch of asking for Canadians' opinions on facing tighter times could be politically shrewd.

6) “It frames the problem facing the country as the deficit, as opposed to health care,” said pollster Greg Lyle, managing director of Innovative Research Group. “If the problem you want to solve in the election is getting somebody who's best able to handle the deficit, the answer's going to be Stephen Harper.”

7) Through meetings hosted by cabinet ministers and backbench MPs, and by means of techniques such as online surveys, Ottawa will be asking Canadians how fast the government should move to balance the books and what the priorities should be.

80 “Once the recession is over, once stimulus measures come to an end, we're not going to be raising taxes, we're not going to be cutting transfers to provinces, so we're going to have to make do with a reality that revenue is going to have to grow faster than expenditures,” a government official said.

9) “[The question is] how do you make do with that reality?”

10) Budget consultations are held every year, but were expanded for last year's recession budget, and this year's will be just as extensive.

11) Part of the Finance Department website invites budget suggestions and lists five questions. Among them, Canadians are asked whether the government's stimulus plan is effective and how it might be improved – and how fast the government should move to eliminate the deficit.

12) “It's necessary to continue stimulus measures this year, but to start planning exit measures…” Mr. Harper told Radio-Canada television Thursday, insisting the deficit can be eliminated by restraining the growth of spending, but without sharp cuts. “We will have to examine the priorities.”

13) TD Bank chief economist Don Drummond, a former senior finance official, said he supports the open call for suggestions, but warns that such calls tend to attract comments from those who are vehemently for or against specific issues, not from those who comprise the silent majority. “It's like phone-in radio shows,” he said.

14) Mr. Drummond, a Finance Department official during 1990s budget cuts, said it is wise to start preparing the public. “There will be pain if you cut back and part of the cardinal rule of doing these things is you do some conditioning before you inflict pain,” he said.

15) MPs on the Commons finance committee have already crossed the country hearing budget suggestions and tabled a report last month. They recommended Ottawa continue existing stimulus measures but also that the government “engage in meaningful expenditure review and prepare long-term debt reduction plans.”

16) Cabinet ministers recently received written instructions from the Prime Minister to start looking for ways to save money in their departmental budgets.

17) On Thursday, Mr. Harper told Radio-Canada that the end of stimulus-spending provisions will go a long way to cutting the deficit, and the rest can be accomplished by restraining the rate of growth in government spending.

18) Parliamentary Budget Officer Kevin Page, meanwhile, is poised to release a report suggesting it will be much harder for the government to balance the books. This year's deficit is expected to reach $56-billion.

19) Douglas Porter, deputy chief economist with BMO Capital Markets, said the government will need to bring in a “transition” budget that deals both with stimulus and restraint.

20) “Policy makers want to sooth the concerns of bond investors that they are going to address the gaping budget deficits that we see around the world down the line,” he said. “But at the same time, they don't want to spook consumers – and to some extent businesses – that major restraint is right around the corner and brace yourself for hard times.”

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Even ardent Harper supporters are admitting the end is near for Harper.

Thursday, January 7, 2010 7:14 AM

The beginning of the end for Stephen Harper
Norman Spector

I still think that Stephen Harper’s position will grow weaker after the HST is introduced in July in Ontario and British Columbia, and as the stimulus program gives way to the need for fiscal restraint in the 2011 budget. In fact, having served a premier and a prime minister on their way out of office, it looks to me as though Mr. Harper already has, as his priority, acquiring an additional year or two of contacts and of credential-burnishing experience before looking for his next job in the private sector.

The Prime Minister and those around him will deny it assiduously, if only to minimize any premature jockeying for position among the not inconsiderable number of Conservatives who see themselves living at 24 Sussex one day.

Worth reposting

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WOW, the polls are really getting bad for the CON's. Two bad polls in one day and conservatives eating their own. Canadians are becoming fed up with arrogant Harper who is only in it for himself.
Majority condemn Harper move, poll findsSurvey conducted for the Star finds little support for prorogation

Richard J. Brennan
OTTAWA BUREAU Published On Thu Jan 7

Norman Spector says harper at the end of his run
Economist magazine slams Harper
Economist: Canada without Parliament
Facebook: Canadians Against Proroguing Parliament
Walkom: Vent outrage at your local MP

OTTAWA – Prime Minister Stephen Harper was wrong to suspend Parliament for what many Canadians believe were selfish reasons, according to poll done for the Toronto Star.

The Angus Reid public opinion poll released Thursday found that 53 per cent of Canadians disagreed with Harper's decision to prorogue Parliament, despite the Prime Minister's insistence it was a routine constitutional matter.

Even more than half of the Conservative supporters surveyed said they opposed the decision

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Harper is the real American. He loves Fox news and American GWB. Harper is in it for himself, and is just visiting before he takes his new job in the US. That is why he hired Ari Flescher and appears on FOX.

"Canada is a Northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term, and very proud of it. Canadians make no connection between the fact that they are a Northern European welfare state and the fact that we have very low economic growth, a standard of living substantially lower than yours, a massive brain drain of young professionals to your country, and double the unemployment rate of the United States." -Stephen Harper Patriot

"[Y]our country [the USA], and particularly your conservative movement, is a light and an inspiration to people in this country and across the world." -Stephen Harper right wing radical

Torstar today:

"Ever eager to please Washington, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government is reacting to the Christmas Day terror scare by rushing 44 full-body scanners into Canadian airports to carry out virtual strip-searches of travelers headed south. That's more than are now in use in airports across the entire United States."

Stephen Harper just in it for himself and just visiting.

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Kindlegirl, your quotes relate to this so read below. No wonder Harper is shutting down anyone who gets in his way. Not only is he covering up scandals, he wants to destroy the social fabric of Canada and balancing the budget will be the excuse to start the attack.

"As the NCC’s former president, there can be no question as to Harper’s hostility towards the disadvantaged. In a 1997 speech, Harper (then vice-president of the NCC) told the Council for National Policy, a far-right-wing think tank, “In terms of the unemployed, of which we have over a million-and-a-half, don’t feel particularly bad for many of these people. They don’t feel bad about it themselves, as long as they’re receiving generous social assistance and unemployment insurance.”

This organization has grown savvier over the years and now hides its insidious agenda behind a thin patina of populist rhetoric. Harper wishes to create in Canada a powerful bulwark for American Republican values, which in the 1997 speech Harper referred to as “a light and an inspiration to people in this country and across the world.” Once the Calgary agenda is established, provinces like BC (whose crony premier is a de facto Harper Tory), will begin to fall like dominoes. And the Canadian social safety net—our actual true light and inspiration to the world—will be torn to shreds before our incredulous eyes.

On the issue of Kyoto and the environment, Harper is a pure expression of the Calgary view—as expressed on a regular basis by popular Calgary-based and Rush Limbaugh-wanna-be Dave Rutherford—that the planet is nothing but our treasure trove and toilet and, in our worship of the almighty dollar, the first and only priority is to channel our “natural resources” to the States and China as quickly as possible. From this cowtown way of seeing things, environmental externalities don’t merit a second thought.
Unfortunately, Alberta’s uncontrolled tar sands project accounts for an ever-increasing proportion of Canada’s carbon dioxide, benzene, and toluene emissions. Of course, it would be possible to offset the problem by forcing petroleum companies to reduce their gasoline’s sulphur content.

Finally, and most ominously, Harper is a huge cheerleader for American military aggression. Had he been PM in 2003, Canada would be fighting right alongside Uncle Sam in Iraq today, about which Harper said, “We support the war effort and believe we should be supporting our troops and our allies and be there with them doing everything necessary to win.”

The shame is that Canada once excelled at being the world’s most respected diplomat. Now, while we’re distracted into aiding and abetting Uncle Sam’s doomed mission to spread free markets and bullets through the Middle East, the disgusting genocide in Darfur and Chad goes on unnoticed.

In his 1997 speech, Harper derided the Progressive Conservative party for being too progressive: “Now, the term ‘Progressive Conservative’ will immediately raise suspicions in all of your minds. It should. . . . They were in favour of gay rights officially, officially for abortion on demand. Officially—what else can I say about them? Officially for the entrenchment of our universal, collectivized, health-care system and multicultural policies in the constitution of the country.”

Do not be fooled by his newfound country-fried swagger and avuncular affect. As far as Stephen Harper is concerned, Canada should rush full-throttle to emulate the US. And in the process, he intends to eviscerate the Canadian body politic as we know it. "

Harper is big trouble and he is hiding what he really wants to do to Canada, because Canadians will never allow him to do what he wants if they know about it.

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Harper shuts down the parliament so democratically elected Mp's have no say and tries to cover it up by pretending to consult with the peiople.

Oh sure, we've seen this peice of propaganda sleeze before. Shutdown the democratically elected Parliament, then set up a series of phoney townhalls stacked with Tory supporters and say you consulted with the public. Not going to work this time.

As if Harper would actually ask the people. he doesn't want to know what they think, only to use them as sheilds like he uses the military. He's not interested in the fact that the majority of Canadians don't want what he is selling, he is trying to force his will on unwitting Canadians. Its not working anymore.

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Who's holding up the Senates work now. CON Senators are trying to muzzle another report intto their corrupt and dishonest ways. These CON hypocrites accused the Liberals for stalling the crime leg that was already passed the Senate and is now held up by proroguation.

A story by Althia Raj in the Sun chain of newspapers Friday says that the Liberal chair of the Senate’s national security and defence committee plans to release the committee’s report on the RCMP even though Parliament has been suspended and the committees have been dissolved.

Senator Colin Kenny, the long-time committee chairman, told the Sun: “I guarantee they [the Conservative senators] will not go forward with this report. The only way it will go public is if the Liberals make it public.”

But Conservative Senator Pamela Wallin said the Liberals have no right to release a report that belongs to the committee and accused Mr. Kenny of using his position as a “bully pulpit” to spread his “own bias.”

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Stephen Harper's true agenda finally being unveiled.

Stéphane Gobeil
Introducing Canada's minority dictatorship
Stephen Harper's opportunistic use of prorogation leaves his federal Conservatives and Quebeckers at a political crossroads
Stéphane Gobeil
Friday, Jan. 08, 2010 12:23AM EST

By making a habit of closing Parliament, Prime Minister Stephen Harper has once again freed himself from the inconvenience of having any elected counterweight. Having dispatched what Jeffrey Simpson called the Friendly Dictatorship, please welcome the Minority Dictatorship.

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More truth from Harper supporter Norman Spector:

Wednesday, January 6, 2010 01:30 PM

Harper non-partisan?
What is one to make of the huge gap between the calm, non-ideological Prime Minister we saw interviewed by Peter Mansbridge? And the partisan, nasty and dictatorial Stephen Harper painted by his critics, including many in the media?

Some of what we saw on CBC Tuesday evening may be real. But most of it is fake. Who doubts that Conservative attack dogs are operating with Mr. Harper’s approval, even if he is not micromanaging each and every one of their low blows?

Harper told Mansbridge it is the opposition who are partisan not he. No Canadian is going to believe that bold faced lie.

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Prorogue Parliament to spend time at the Olympics when the job losses are going up??? Pathetic.

Canadians Against Proroguing Parliament

101,558 members and counting

Day of Action:

Saturday, January 23, 2010
1:00pm - 5:00pm

On Saturday January 23rd come out and lend your voice and presence to make sure that Harper's Conservatives don't get away with this unprecedented abuse of our political system.

Wherever you are in Canada, make plans to gather and protest and BE HEARD. From Victoria to St. John's we must ASSEMBLE and PROTEST this corruption of our political system. (Parliament Hill, Queen's Park, Parliament Buildings, government offices...)

The unemployment is rising and Harper's mouthpeice CanWest (National Post) has filed for creditor protection. The wheels are falling off the CON bus and harper must go now!.

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Consertative Supporter

Stop talking and start doing, Abolish the Senate now, Put an end to these freeloading Liberal Senators that nothing better to do and take trips to the Communist Republic of China to visit relatives at taxpayers expense. Remove the Govenor General position and remove Liberal appointee's to the Supreme Court which are a major problem.

Abolish or Reform The Senate

No Province should have more "Representation By Population Only" I do not care what these fools came up with in the eighteenth Century including Conservatives, we are in the 21st century in case you did not know.

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I love it when Parliament is shut down, you get to see the Liberals bitch and complain, but they have short memories, Chretien the Corrupt did it many times to get his way, because of this Canada was set back 100 years. He gave all our taxes to China under the scam of the CIDA program that operates to this very day. What I'm concerned about, If we are to abolish or reform this pathetic Senate of Liberals, can we do a 3 for 1, Get rid of the Governor General position and the Liberal appointees at the Supreme Court, namely Mclachin at the sametime.

I do not know why the Liberals are bitiching they had 13 years and did nothing!

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It is utterly amazing how the neo-con sympathizers cannot find fault even with the most fundamentally undemocratic (to use a polite term for the better suited "cowardly") action Harper has bestowed upon us: the proroguing of Parliament. Now the saying goes, “But it is perfectly legal.”

Well let’s consider an analogy. A child pornographer is indicted because upon examining the contents of his laptop evidence of trading in child pornography was discovered. His lawyer, however manages to argue that the evidence is inadmissible due to the police lack of the necessary court order to examine his computer. Charges are dropped. Does that make the man innocent? Conversely, Harper very cowardly prorogued Parliament to escape the consequences of his ignoring the Afghan prisoner procedures. Legal? Possibly, but certainly not ethical.

What is going on here is, once more, obvious to anyone not wearing the red and blue Tory sunglasses that enable him or her to exult in this otherwise underhanded bit of snide. This is yet another outright assertion that the PMO is the one and only seat of decision making power in the country. Parliament and all political parties constituting it are nothing but a nuisance that Harper can snuff off at will, any time he so wishes.

I said “Parliament and all political parties constituting it” because I also include the Tories in the mix, most of whose MPs most likely disagree with his actions, but are whipped into towing the party line or else, not just alone the Loyal Opposition.

Just how long are we going to tolerate this action is up to us, Canadians.

We have a beautiful country, the best in the world. Let us not allow this rogue specimen of a dictator to drag us into merely wishing we still had a Canada to be proud of.

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The Liberals have won more awards for unparliamentary acts that any Party in the history of Canada, but more have been done individually by that Quecber Jean Chretien!

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OMG, Tom Flanagan, Stephen Harper's conservative mentor said tonight on CBC News that none of Harper's defences for prorogation hold water and everyone knows he did it to shut down the Afghan inquiry.

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Watch this CTV report by Robert Fife:

There is a pattern of Harper shutting things down if doesn't like something and potential for a crisis because it appears that Harper is attempting to stifle democracy in Canada.

Watch the CBC At Issue panel:

There are genuine reasons to be very concerned about the health of Canadian democracy.

CBC TV’s Don Newman’s analysis – expect an election call after the Throne Speech and Budget in March.

The Calgary Herald headline: In proroguing Parliament, Harper accused of undermining democracy.

What you can do:

1. Email and phone your Conservative MP constantly to request a meeting in his/her constituency office, keep track of correspondence and responses, be persistent, make them work at home, tie up his/her time meeting with constituency work, be creative, but make them be in the office meeting with you and other constituents (to find your MP go to;

2. Start a “Boo Harper” campaign on Facebook and Twitter, to boo whenever he or one of his Ministers appear at an Olympic event in BC;

3. Send an email to the Governor General with the Subject heading: RESIGN!

Dear Governor General:

You are doing a fantastic job handing out awards, however, your real job is to protect our Constitutional system of government and the institutions of democracy that make it accountable to the people, however, you have abdicated the Constitutional duties Canadians have entrusted in you and weakened our democracy, therefore, I request that you resign.

4. Join and get involved with Fair Vote Canada

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Haiti, la perle des Antilles. Tu te reveille aujourd'hui sous l'écroulement de notre pauvre infrastructure, mais ton peuple t'aidera a retrouver le lustre qui te va si bien. L'union fait la force, notre devise nationale, restera l'appel qui nous guidera pendant nos moments les plus difficiles.

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Harper plummeting in the polls and liberals rising. Time for Harper's retirement.

Parliament shutdown leaves Tories, Liberals nearly tied: poll
Conservative support drops in wake of PM's decision to prorogue Parliament
Susan Delacourt Ottawa Bureau
Published 44 minutes ago

OTTAWA – Prime Minister Stephen Harper's government has paid a large price in popularity for shutting down Parliament, with his Conservatives effectively tied with Liberals in a new poll by The Strategic Counsel.

Conservatives are at 31 per cent, compared to 30 per cent for Liberals, in the poll conducted by Strategic Counsel late last week, as controversy was starting to build over Harper's prorogation of Parliament until March 3.

That's the lowest the Conservatives have been since last June in Strategic Counsel polling.

"Proroguing of Parliament has hurt the Tory brand," said Tim Woolstencroft, the managing partner at Strategic Counsel, who believes that Harper's Conservatives must be seeing the same kind of numbers, because the government has appeared to be in a defensive posture all week. "I think the government is worried about it," Woolstencroft said.

The poll, conducted in online and telephone surveys with 1,860 Canadians, shows the Conservatives have dropped a full 10 percentage points since last October, with the Liberals and New Democrats getting only a slight bump in support.

This and Kevin Page's report, showing Harper has lied about structural deficits is the end of Harper.

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Harper's resignation should be right after he is booed at the Olympics.


[Ottawa – January 14, 2010] - In a stunning turnaround for the ruling Conservatives, who were comfortably in majority territory just three months ago, the Tories now find themselves struggling to stay ahead of the opposition Liberals.

“For those who have been speculating as to whether Canadians really care about the ‘obscure’ issue of prorogation the evidence is now incontrovertible,” said EKOS President Frank Graves. “Canadians have noticed, they do care and this is having a very negative impact on Conservative fortunes.”

The 15-point lead the Conservatives enjoyed over the Liberals in mid-October has tumbled to just 1.6 percentage points. For the first time since last June a clear plurality of Canadians say that the government is going in the wrong direction. Outside of the shrinking CPC constituency there is a dramatic lean to seeing the federal government now moving in the wrong direction.

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Ignatief approval rating rises as Harper's sinks.

Jane Taber Globe and Mail January 15, 2010

Iggy gets his groove back. A few weeks ago he was a bum but new and favourable polls are casting a different light on Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff. Three leading national opinion polls – EKOS yesterday, Strategic Counsel a day before and now Harris-Decima – show Stephen Harper's Conservatives and Mr. Ignatieff's Liberals now basically tied. As well, the Harris-Decima poll shows that the Prime Minister’s approval rating has dropped since the fall.

Meanwhile, the 10 point lead the Tories had enjoyed over the Liberals for the last several months has evaporated. The reason? Pollsters are saying it’s because Canadians don’t like the Prime Minister’s decision to prorogue Parliament.

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Hey Ronald, I haven't been here in a while. Glad to see the CPC and Harper emploding.
The big story is in Ontario, where the SC poll has the Liberals leading the Conservatives - and by a significant amount. They are at 39%, with the Tories at 33%. The NDP, though, is only at 14%.

Harper's personal numbers are going down also across the country (even in Alberta), while Ignatieff's are beginning to rise. I wonder how long the harpercrites will put iup with this disaster. I see many CON's are jumping ship like Flanagan, Spector and now a major cabinet minister sees the writing on the wall.

You can tell when its bad for Harper, the CONbots start ranting incoherently in a feable attempt to bury the truth. Too funny.

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Peter Kent's brother is calling him on supporting dictator Harper. Its getting harder and harder to cover for Harper and his dishonesty.


Published on Saturday, Jan. 16, 2010 12:00AM EST

Peter Kent isn't feeling the love from his little brother these days.

Arthur is the brother in question - an award-winning foreign correspondent, whose reporting (and good looks) during the 1991 Persian Gulf war earned him the nickname the Scud Stud.

Arthur Kent is based in Calgary. Besides making documentaries, he has of late been writing thoughtful but extremely pointed pieces critical of Stephen Harper and his government's decision to shut down Parliament. He says the Prime Minister had Parliament prorogued to try to contain the damage from the Afghan detainee inquiry.

"In truth, there has been an unwritten fatwa maintained by the Prime Minister's Office against discussion of any and all controversial aspects of the Afghan debacle," Mr. Kent wrote recently on his news site,

In an interview, Arthur added that if the Prime Minister is uncomfortable with democracy, he should quit his job.

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Re Globe and Mail a more Professional Office: His name is Donolo, he does not deserve the Mr. out west anyhow, with his past performances with "Thank God You Out Of Office" Jean Chretien and hopefully never to return.!

I'm sure Ronald the new Liberal in Ontario will have something to say about this!

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Donald Sulkowski

Canadians are fed up with Harper's dictatorship.

Monday, January 18, 2010 7:51 AM

Why 2010 might not be a lucky year for Tories
Brian Topp

The bad news is the Stephen Harper got away with padlocking Parliament in the fall of 2008, in order to avoid a confidence vote.

This profoundly undemocratic and illegitimate act - which threw such ugly light on the vacuousness of the office of our Governor-General, the vulnerability of our democracy, and the over-mighty nature of our executive - was made possible for many reasons. Including ugly ethnic sloganeering, a then-largely sympathetic English-language chattering class, and the inestimable advantage (for Mr. Harper) that Stéphane Dion was about to be couped by Michael Ignatieff, who was of a mind to play along with the Conservatives for his own reasons. And so, Mr. Harper clung to office.

The good news is that Stephen Harper doesn't seem to be getting away with it a second time.

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Harper the phoney! Nice to hear the PM inviting celebrities over to his state sponsored chalet on Harrington Lake and sipping liqueurs like Goldschlager that has 24 kt gold in it. I thought this was a Tim Horton's man? I guess he needs a little vacation after proroging parliament. Arrogant and fake photo op PM is all he is.

Monday, January 18, 2010 8:38 AM

Jann Arden raises a glass with the Harpers
Jane Taber

Ms. Arden related the story of her day with the prime ministerial couple at her concert last night.

She and her little dog, who travels in a purse, were picked up by a friend of the Harpers and taken out to Gatineau. She said she barely recognized the “man in the toque” and blue jeans, who met her and just happened to be Prime Minister. She spent the day enjoying “Beaver Teeth” tarts (she was joking; they were actually Sugar Pie tarts) and having sips of Goldschlager (it’s a liqueur with gold flecks in it) and a raspberry liqueur called Sour Puss.

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r.a.t. alias # 33, a member since January 17, 2010 17:40, does another cut and paste and uses another words, moving on.

r.a.t. alias # 34, member since January 18, 2010 09:05, Cut and paste an article that was written by a former NDP Campaign Manager, moving on.

r.a.t. alias # 35, a member since January 18, 2010 09:13, does another cut and paste but does add an insult this time and as is always the case there is no content, just Liberal talking points - so moving on.

Today`s bad news for the Liberals, is from K.O`Malley at the CBC as yet another court has struck down a Liberal directed action, just how will this play with Canadians as yet another Liberal lie has been exposed by the Courts of Canada.

UPDATED: CPC vs. Elections Canada:

Hot off the Federal Court newswire comes word of a pretty darned decisive-sounding win for the Conservatives in their long-running dispute over the in-and-out election financing scheme:

A decision was issued this morning by the Honourable Luc Martineau of the Federal Court in file T-838-07:

IN THE MATTER OF L.G. Callaghan and the Chief Electoral Officer of Canada


Following the hearing held in November 2009, the Court has set aside the Chief Electoral Officer's decision to refuse to certify the advertising expenses claimed by the two applicants in relation to their campaigns' share of a Regional Media Buy (RMB) program organized by the Conservative Party of Canada during the 39th general election, which took place on January 23, 2006. The Court has determined that the claimed advertising expenses were incurred by the applicants and has ordered the Chief Electoral Officer to provide the Receiver General of Canada with a new certificate.

So, what happens next? Well, in theory, the still ongoing parallel investigation by the

Commissioner of Elections is unaffected by today's ruling, which was sparked by an appeal for judicial review, but in practice, it seems highly unlikely that it will lead to the laying of charges under the Elections Act, given this indirect, but pointed precedent.

A copy of the decision can be obtained via the Web site of the Federal Court:

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It would appear that a number (tongue and cheek) of Liberals have been writing about the lack of accountability and transparency by the Conservatives and have been quoting the Ethics Commissioner investigation on the "Scandal" of Conservatives Logos on Stimulus Cheques as one of their examples.

Well it would appear that another Liberal attack on the Conservatives has been put to rest with the release of the following five days ago and interesting enough is that it has received almost no media plan.

OTTAWA, January 13, 2010—Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Mary Dawson has discontinued her examination of allegations regarding partisan advertising of the Government of Canada Economic Action Plan.

In light of the foregoing analysis, I am discontinuing this examination on the basis that the Conservative Party of Canada is not a “person” within the meaning of section 4 [of the Conflict of Interest Act] and, consequently, the identified public office holders could not have contravened the substantive rules of conduct set out in section 5 or subsection 6(1). For similar reasons, they could not have contravened section 9. In addition, I find that section 7 has no application in the context of this request.

For these reasons, this examination under the Conflict of Interest Act is discontinued.

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The truth printed about Stephen Harper in the Globe. Not many Canadians are going to vote for this dishonest PM who treats Canadians like they are stupid.

"Here is a government, from its head down, that practices ignorance-based public policy. Huge areas of the human condition go completely unrecognized – AIDS, global warming, Africa, to name only a few. To Africa, they are simply indifferent. Who knows why? To AIDS and climate change, they are actively hostile or in denial. This is a prime minister who humiliated Canada before tens of thousands of social activists and scientists from around the globe by refusing to appear at the giant biannual International AIDS Conference in Toronto in 2006. This is a prime minister who, as we all recall, gave Canada a black eye for his shabby performance at the Copenhagen climate summit the other day. This is a prime minister who is single-handedly reversing Canada's stellar reputation (too often vastly overrated, I'm afraid) around the world. I've just come from Africa, and I promise you this is no exaggeration.

It's also bizarre in Harper's own terms. He's dying to have Canada elected a temporary member of the Security Council when a rotating seat opens later this year. (What Harper's Canada could possibly bring to the Council except deep-rooted ignorance and sophomoric prejudices is beyond understanding.) Yet he has actively alienated countries all over the world by his various vindictive acts – such as cutting off aid to African countries, refusing grants to widely respected Canadian NGOs, copping out on climate change.

This is a prime minister who knows little about many subjects and feels passionately about them all – the Middle East, international development, the entire Canadian criminal justice system. This is a prime minister who looks at a complex, nuanced, interconnected world and sees only simple black and white. This is a prime minister who breaks the most heartfelt of commitments with bland excuses that make you wonder if you've heard properly. This is a prime minister for whom democratic accountability is a pure oxymoron that has no place in his life, only in his campaign promises.

This week's polls suggest that his arbitrary, arguably unconstitutional suspension of Parliament – a drastic ploy in order to bury the issue of torturing Afghan prisoners – has cost him dearly among Canadians. He of course gave himself the Christmas gift of insisting that his fellow citizens didn't give a rat's fanny about either. He's been wrong so many times I can't even count the Globe and Mail editorials fiercely criticizing him. But he bounces back, time after time, and fools us all. How many more times can he get a way with it? Look at his reaction to Haiti. Just watch him."

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Things just keep getting worse for Harper. He is tanking and will not be able to stop the slide after his budget.

Let's not forget Harper's long-term agenda
In March, Harper will present his first 'austerity' budget. It could prove to be more damaging than the proroguing of Parliament.

Published January 18, 2010

VANCOUVER—There is, for good reason, a lot of enthusiasm across the country as the groundswell against Prime Minister Stephen Harper's cynical shuttering of Parliament continues to grow. The Prime Minister from hell has gotten away with so much—and the opposition is so weak that any indication of genuine public disgust at his continuing demonstration of contempt for democracy is a welcome sign.

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Harper government has no excuses for proroguing Parliament and is obstructing justice by doing so. This is not going away as experts (even Conservatives) agree he was wrong and is hiding from the truth.

Queen's University retired political science professor Ned Franks, one of the country's leading experts on Parliament, told The Hill Times that opposition parties should ask for Parliament to be reconvened.

"If I was an opposition leader at this point in time, I would stand up and I would demand that the Prime Minister re-convene Parliament and introduce emergency legislation to permit extensive support for the reconstruction of Haiti," said Prof. Franks.

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Heres even more bad news for Harper in the Star. People are angry and are not going to let this scam from the PMO slide. Harper is too dishonest and it is now obvious to average canadians he is a phoney.

"The latest twist in the Conservative narrative on the decision to keep Parliament closed for most of the winter is that it is a tempest in an elite teapot. In the words of Industry Minister Tony Clement, the whole affair is a "blip on the Richter scale of upset."

But this week, three separate polls put significantly negative numbers for the government on that blip. On the heels of the prorogation announcement, the decisive Conservative lead in voting intentions has evaporated.

So far, the controversy has had the most impact on Conservative fortunes in Ontario, ground zero of the media backlash over the move.

Short of reversing course, the Conservatives' best hope now lies in a swift change in channels rather than in more increasingly clumsy attempts to justify what a majority of Canadians perceive as unjustifiable.

Looking at the polls, it would be tempting to conclude that the so-called chattering class has scored a rare point against Conservative spin doctors. But the more likely explanation is that, as in the case of the arts cuts in Quebec, the Conservatives are losing the prorogation debate on their preferred field of populism.

The anecdotal evidence suggests that for better or for worse most Canadians believe a government day's work involves interacting with the minority Parliament. Against that backdrop, the sight of Conservative MPs indulging in a multitude of photo opportunities at next month's Winter Olympics is more likely to drive home the opposition message than any amount of Liberal attack ads."

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Progrogation = Harper hubris: Dismissing parliament is quite legal as the Governor General must do as the Prime Minister directs. Now, what is to prevent the Prime Minister from dismissing parliament for three months ????how about six months ??? or a little longer. It is easy to see there is a gaping flaw in the Westminster model of government that we supposedly follow in Canada. As I said earlier, the the current MPs are equally culpable for the current mess as they did not limit the budget for the Office of the Prime Minister which they easily could have done in a minority parliament. The PMO expanded under Trudeau who started the rot that is eating away at the authority of the House and ELECTED representatives, and Harper has expanded the PMO beyond 525 souls so that parliament is not really necessary. MPs and Ministers do the bidding of the brain trust within the PMO------isn't it easy to see what happened to governance in so many European countries during the 1930s and, to some degree, it is still going on today. The next majority Government of Canada, by resolution of the House, must develop the guidelines whereby prorogation may be used and bind the Governor General to that rule. The Prime Minister of Canada, as we have seen, is much more powerful than any President of United States who could never send Congress home on any excuse.

I rather like the remarks noted in one of the papers that points out that the Sun King famously said ".....I am the State". It is also noted in history that he did manage to keep his appointment with Madame la Guillotine for all his legal moves.

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updated Mon Jan 18 16:53:23 EST 2010 cuts and pastes an NDP article.
updated Mon Jan 18 16:56:09 EST 2010, another cut and paste.
updated Mon Jan 18 17:00:40 EST 2010 and yet another cut and paste.

alias # 37, a member since January 18, 2010 17:14 - NiagaraRegion (1)

updated Mon Jan 18 17:14:32 EST 2010, another cut and paste - this time from the Toronto Star.

alias # 38, a member since January 18, 2010 17:36 - Angryvoter (1)

Just a personal attack and insults, repeated from a previous post, submitted by alias # 35

So nothing here once again, just five more r.a.t. tales.

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What was missing from the Toronto Star that was cut and pasted by alias # 37.

One has to wonder why the Toronto Star and the Liberal party is censuring the news and only reporting what can be considered as favourable to the Liberals.

"How well the government has been doing in changing the channel can be gauged by comparing the French version of Chantal Hébert’s column (filed yesterday) with the English version filed last week and published in today’s Toronto Star. Notably, the English version does not contain the following lead: "

“Over the past week, Prime Minister Stephen Harper has put his propensity for control to good use in responding to the humanitarian crisis in Haiti. The results are impressive. … Even the opposition parties concede that the initial response was exemplary.”

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Harper is destroying our democracy. He is a disgrace. Read it here:

Friday, January 1, 2010

Stephen Harper's not-so-benign dictatorship

By Michael Behiels, Citizen SpecialDecember 31, 2009
It seems Stephen Harper, our not-so-benign dictator, can't stand Canada's constitutional democracy. He is fed up with Parliament's restrictions on the almost unlimited power of his office and his executive.

It seems Harper is determined to attend the Olympic Winter Games in Vancouver without having to face constant criticism from those pesky and "disloyal" opposition parties and Liberal senators. Best to put Parliament on ice.

After the budget, I am certain Harper will then pay the GG another visit requesting that Michaëlle Jean drop the writ for yet another election, the third election since he took office in 2006. And this from a prime minister who brought in a fixed-election-date law that he will then have broken twice.

Harper and Flanagan, in their desperate search for a politically successful conservative party, lashed out at successive Liberal governments' seemingly endless benign dictatorship over Parliament and the Ottawa bureaucracy. Their contention was: "Although we like to think of ourselves as living in a mature democracy, we live, instead, in something little better than a benign dictatorship, not under a strict one-party rule, but under a one-party-plus system beset by the factionalism, regionalism and cronyism that accompany any such system. Our parliamentary government creates a concentrated power structure out of step with other aspects of society."

Irony of ironies, their critique can and should now be thrown back into their faces. Prime Minister Harper is challenging the constitutional powers of Parliament by systematically denying MPs access to uncensored papers and documents, as well as the MPs' rights to call any and all persons to testify before parliamentary committees.
It is becoming patently obvious Harper now presides over a minority government that can all-too-readily be characterized as a not-so-benign dictatorship. Harper successfully exploits the first-past-the-post electoral system -- which he and Flanagan denounced as immature -- and the ideological and political divisions within the opposition parties, to impose his unflinching will on his cabinet, caucus, and what he characterizes as an utterly dysfunctional House of Commons, one made so by the government itself. With his appointment of yet more Conservatives to the Senate, Harper will exercise full and unfettered power over Parliament, a power which he will readily use to cow the judicial branch of government with his so-called tough-on-crime legislation.

In late 2008, Harper bullied a weak and badly informed Governor General into granting him a prorogation. Several constitutional scholars have declared his reckless but highly effective request unconstitutional.

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Part two of the disgrace:

Now he's doing it again. Why? Harper wants to ensure that his appointment of Conservative senators goes into effect immediately. And, just as importantly, he wants to bring quick closure to the work of the parliamentary committee, supported by a growing public outcry, that is investigating his government's handling of the Afghan prisoners of war affair. Indeed, it is clear that Harper will engage opposition MPs, senators and Canadian citizens in a constitutional war over the prerogatives of Parliament, a war that he and his cabinet are determined to win at virtually any price to our constitutional democracy and its hallowed institutions.

Harper has maligned several very senior and very competent bureaucrats who dared to question, criticize, or oppose his government's questionable policies. These include former Military Police Complaints Commission chairman Peter Tinsley, RCMP complaints commission chairman Paul Kennedy, former Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission president Linda Keen, parliamentary budget officer Kevin Page, chief electoral officer Marc Mayrand, and former Immigration and Refugee Board chairman Jean-Guy Fleury, to name only the best known.

The most recent casualty in Harper's dirty war against his political enemies is evident in his government's blatant attempts to destroy of reputation of former diplomat Richard Colvin. Why? A courageous Mr. Colvin, much to his credit, revealed the full import of the Harper government's questionable policy pertaining to the treatment of Afghan prisoners of war taken by the Canadian Forces.

Following cabinet's directives, these PoWs were handed over unconditionally to the Afghan National Army and police without oversight and, some witnesses argue, with full knowledge that they would be brutally tortured. Now Harper rejects all reasonable requests for a formal inquiry and castigates his critics, including Canadian citizens who denounce his policy in this matter, as anti-Canadian Taliban sympathizers.
Harper's continued use of such bold, provocative and intimidating tactics proves that he is morally convinced that the end -- unfettered power for his Conservative party and government and the wholesale destruction of the centrist Liberal party -- justifies the means.

Canadians must encourage their parliamentarians to fight for their rights in order to ensure the preservation and health of Canada's constitutional democracy. Harper and his executive are not above the Constitution. The Canadian Constitution is the supreme law of Canada. The guarantors of our Constitution -- the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government and Canadian citizens, have a responsibility to uphold the Constitution. If the legislative branch is rendered powerless by Harper's executive branch, Canadians have no choice but to defend their Constitution by taking their struggle to the Supreme Court of Canada.

If the Supreme Court fails to defend the rights of Parliament and Canadians, then every Canadian has the responsibility to exercise his/her full sovereignty via the ballot box.
Michael D. Behiels is University Research Chair of Canadian Federalism and Constitutional Studies at the University of Ottawa.

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Alias # 39, a new member since Mon Jan 18 19:0, provides just a cut and paste from an Ottawa Citizen article, By Michael Behiels, Citizen Special December 31, 2009 and is a repeat of a previous alias post.

Nothing here once again, moving on.

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Canadians Against Proroguing Parliament over 200,000 on Facebook and many more not on Facebook will be out on Saturday across Canada.

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Macleans poll finds 70% of Canadians think Stephen Harper's proroging of Parliament is an insult to parliament. Harper is really going to pay for this one. Ignatieff just has to watch Harper implode.

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Cornwall Free News poll (CPC riding)

88% against proroguing and want politians back to work.

The anger is getting stronger towards this shutting down of democracy to avoid a subpoena. They are actually breaking the law with obstruction of justice. When the House convenes they will be finished.

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What a disgrace harper has made of himself:

Canada alone using proroguing as political tactic

By Richard Foot, Canwest News ServiceJanuary 16, 2010

Go searching for the last time a Westminster-style parliament was shut down to free its leaders from unwanted censure or scrutiny -- and you'll end right back in Canada, where you started.

It turns out, no other English-speaking nation with a system of government like ours -- not Britain, Australia or New Zealand -- has ever had its parliament prorogued in modern times, so that its ruling party could avoid an investigation, or a vote of confidence, by other elected legislators.

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Proroguing would erode Parliament: experts
By Heather Scoffield, THE CANADIAN PRESS

Stephen Harper damaging Canada:

Last Updated: 18th January 2010, 5:48pm

OTTAWA — The role of elected representatives will erode further if the federal government makes good on its suggestion to make prorogation an annual event, experts say.

“It’s not easy to see how this can work,” says David Mitchell, president of the Ottawa-based Public Policy Forum. “It raises the question: Why do we have a Parliament?”

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Coservative senator calls Harper out and shows canadians what a dictator he is.

Stephen for Seborga

by Aaron Wherry on Monday, January 18, 2010 2:10pm Macleans magazine

Bit late to this, but Progressive Conservative Senator Elaine McCoy has offered some free counsel to the Prime Minister.

As Prime Minister Harper continues to flog his canard * about the Senate blocking his legislation, one wonders what his true aspirations might be. Zero opposition? Leader for life, even? Perhaps he’s been studying the life and times of Prince Giorgio I, elected prince of Seborga, who recently passed away. Known as ‘His Tremendousness’, Prince Georgio reigned supreme for 46 years. Quite an attractive role model, for those inclined to complain about dissenting opinions…

But now there’s a vacancy. Who will start the newest Facebook campaign – Stephen for Seborga? It certainly has a satisfying ring to it, I’m sure you’ll agree.

It behooves us to note that according to leading constitutional scholars, Mr. Harper is not in fact a dictator or royal ruler.

Wow, this by a conservative. Harper is a disgrace to canada and must be shown the door.

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Your Question Period at the CBC online:

Question to my MP: What are you doing to reform or abolish the Senate, getting rid of the position of Government General and replacing appointees made by "Jean The Corrupt" at the Supreme Court or how long will it take you to take action!

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Harper continues to tank in the polls. Time for the CON's to ditch this liability of a PM before they hand the government to the Liberals.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:08 AM

Dissatisfaction with Conservatives
reaches new high in Quebec
Norman Spector

From behind its internet firewall, Le Devoir reports the results of the latest Leger poll, conducted just before the earthquake struck Haiti.

75 per cent of Quebeckers are dissatisfied with the Conservatives, an increase of 7 per cent since the last poll at the end of November.

43 per cent of Quebeckers are “very dissatisfied.” Only 18 per cent say they are satisfied, and 2 per cent say they are “very satisfied.”

Pollster Christian Bourque attributes the results of the poll to Stephen Harper’s performance in Copenhagen and his decision to prorogue Parliament.

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American style of blind political partisanship is the new problem facing many canadian voters after waking up from their long slumber of political apathy since the sponsorship scandal. For many canadians, learning about the extent of misspending around Chretien's sponsorship project was a shocking, but not surprising event in the end. I mean, governmental corruption in Canada? So after the canadian public was properly informed by watching the result of the lenghty public inquiry, they decided to give our minority government's leadership to the conservative party on the promise of a higher level of governmental accountability and transparency before going back to their collective political slumber. Now, that Harper has prorogued parliement twice for personal political reasons, what are sensible canadian voters supposed to do? Remain apathetic and accept Harper's evolving excuses for closing our democratic institutions for the second time? Should we demand for the same level of accountability from the conservative led government surrounding the Afghan detainee transfer affair, then the liberals for the sponsorship affair? For a growing number of canadians, the answer is clear. Over 204 000 members on facebook support the Canadians Against Proroguing Parliament movement compared to the fewer then 9 000 members who support the conservative party of Canada. Such small uprisings are often overlooked by pollsters and dismissed by past political leaders, but their growing call for accountability still remained unanswered until the next suprising political shift. This is where blind political partisanship shows its ugly face. For too many canadians, that force makes sensible people make arguments that would try to defend the misuse of prorogation by trying to divert voters attention towards past use of prorogation by other parties in history. That same force formulates arguments that tries to minimize the need for governmental accountability after the discovery of questionable behavior by MPs in Ottawa surrounding the Afghan detainee transfer affair by accusing those who ask questions of being against the troops or by quoting the latest movements in the polls in order to deny the justification for a public inquiry. I don't remember waiting for polls before deciding the need for a public inquiry around the liberal's sponsorship scandal. However, the worst part of blind political partisanship is the way it makes some people use the proper response from our federal government to the suffering of haitians following the worst earthfquake in centuries in order to negate the political impact and implications of the prorogation of parliement. Again, I am glad to see our governments response for their immediate needs, but those previous questions still remain. On top of that, Harper's conservatives created a few new ones. When exactly will canadians troops pull out from Afghanistan? When should the canadian military start the transition from the mission in Afghanistan to a possible mission in Haiti? Should the canadian government start to defer funds immediately from Afghanistan towards Haiti or should we try to fund both? Unfortunately, we have no answers, because our parliement remains closed. And that's simply the main problem.

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A Conservative calls out Harper for lying to Canadians -again.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:54 AM

Prorogation fibs and Conservative shuffles
Norman Spector

As Tom Flanagan has observed, the Conservatives have been shooting themselves in both feet with their shifting explanations for prorogation. It seems, however, that Prime Minister Stephen Harper has not taken to heart the advice of his former adviser.

Yesterday, Conservative anyonymice were offering a new reason for prorogation. The PM, we were told, wanted to ensure that ministers with new portfolios had time to bone up before facing their opposition critics in Question Period.


Had that been Mr. Harper’s true motivation, he could have shuffled his cabinet weeks ago. For, as has been widely reported, the Prime Minister sent his ministers updated mandate letters before Christmas. Normally, these letters are given to ministers on the day they assume their new responsibilities.

Had the shuffle taken place before Christmas, the new ministers would have had roughly the same amount of time to prepare as they will now have. Outgoing ministers would have been spared some useless work over the holidays. And the Conservative government – and the Prime Minister – may have still been flying high in the polls.

Speaking of spin, though most of yesterday’s shuffle had been pre-figured in leaks to CP and CTV, Conservatives somehow neglected to tell an embarrassed Bob Fife or anyone else that Defence Minister Peter Mackay would be losing his responsibilities for ACOA and the Atlantic Gateway.

Yesterday, Conservative spin doctors were whispering that Stockwell Day’s appointment as President of the Treasury Board was a signal of the Harper government’s seriousness in reining in spending. Mr. Day’s experience as Alberta Treasurer was cited as proof; in truth, per capita program spending under the Klein government was the highest of any province in Canada. All the rest was the kind of spin that you can only get away with in a one-party province. Or maybe not, judging from today’s coverage of the cabinet shuffle – a tangible testament to Mr. Day’s communications skills and the affection for him in Ottawa media circles.

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One of your problems, is that you forget what you write and under what id you post it under.

My point was and still is that there is one individual creating all this IDs and spamming the board and I believe that that Individual is now using Indo Canadian, as the pattern of insults and personal attacks, the manner of writing and spelling is a constant between all the IDs.

It started, with sly, urus, pollfan, rough and tumble and now it would appear that it is indo Canadian, the pattern is always the same, one ID is suspended and then another pops up, I make a post or reply to a post and then there is a flurry of one day wonders who "support" the "new individual" and all make the same claims that you are making now and the pattern is there for the mods to see.

Hopefully the mods will correct this, before you completely spam the board as you did the last time and as before, r.a.t. is acronym for rough and tumble (suspended) and is not a presonal attack on you, it is just how i keep track of the multi IDs.

This is the list of IDS that have been suspended to date and there is a reason why they are gone and I am still here.

A) a member since January 07, 2010 20:26 - Harper to Retire Soon (suspended).
B) a member since January 07, 2010 22:09 - Just Visiting, so what (suspended).
C) a member since January 07, 2010 22:48 - Sonia (suspended).
D) a member since January 07, 2010 23:42 - Kindlegirl (suspended).
E) A member since January 08, 2010 01:04 - pinklady (suspended).
F) a member since January 08, 2010 07:57 - Wolverine (suspended).
G) a member since January 08, 2010 12:50 - Kirk (suspended).
H) a member since January 08, 2010 13:08 - checkmate (suspended).
I) a member since January 01, 2009 08:43 - sly (suspended).
J) a member since November 25, 2009 06:40 - Pollfan (suspended).
K) a member since May 28, 2008 14:50 - Urus (suspended).
L) a member since July 15, 2008 04:55 - TPQ (suspended).
M) a member since December 09, 2009 13:35 - Rough and tumble (suspended).
N) a member since January 13, 2010 00:39 - FDofBC (suspended).
O) a member since December 17, 2009 01:29 ABC Partytime (suspended).
P) a member since January 07, 2010 21:36 - Tommy (suspended).

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More bad news for Harper and his financial mismanagement.

Dollar dives on inflation report
Canadian dollars John Woods for The Globe and Mail

Globe and Mail Update
Published on Wednesday, Jan. 20, 2010 9:36AM EST

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Conservatives reach new low in Quebec.

Tuesday, January 19, 2010 3:08 AM Globe and Mail

Dissatisfaction with Conservatives
reaches new high in Quebec

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Alias # 01 a member since December 11, 2009 06:55 writes,

"What certain conservatives don't understand is that Ignatieff is mainly accountable to his party, which he represents as their political leader, while Harper is mainly accountable to ALL canadians, which he represents as their political leader."

So much for transparency and accountability, as it would appear that Mr. Ignatieff has no accountability to Canadians and is free to say and do whatever he likes, until he is "made" P.M. and it would appear that is the time that he is accountable.

That however does explain a lot about the public policies or lack of same coming from the Liberals and here are a list of excellent questions brought forward by Carol Goar, Toronto Star, Editorial Board, Published On Wed Jan 20 2010, which indirectly shows why the Liberals are not accoutable.

1) But at least the Conservatives have set a goal and laid out their path.

2) The opposition parties have done neither.

3) Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff has changed his position three times. Last spring, he said he was open to raising taxes after the recession.

4) He reversed himself in the face of public alarm.

5) Now he says it's not his responsibility, as opposition leader, to figure out how to get rid of the deficit Harper ran up.

6) New Democratic Party Leader Jack Layton jumped on Ignatieff for suggesting a tax increase might be necessary.

7) But he didn't say what he would do.

8) So Canadians are left with two choices: a government plan that lacks credibility or no plan at all.

9) At minimum, the public deserves some honest answers.

10) If raising taxes has become unthinkable, what will each party cut to get the budget back in balance?

11) If Canada's debt burden is one of the lightest in the world, why is it so urgent to eliminate the deficit?

12) If Ignatieff and Layton have no faith in Harper's plan, what are they offering?

13) There is always a chance the Prime Minister will be extraordinarily lucky. If Canada catches a strong economic tailwind; if job creation picks up smartly; if interest rates stay low; if new industries bloom in the manufacturing heartland; and if global events are benign, Ottawa could be deficit-free by 2015.
14) It is an appealing scenario. But it's not a sound basis for economic planning.

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let the protests begin. Harper has really blown it this time. He is tanking in the polls and the anti-proroguation sentiment is growing.

Anti-prorogation protest dogs PM
Group gets jump start on weekend rallies by sending vanguard to greet Stephen Harper in Toronto

Article Comments The Canadian Press
Published on Wednesday, Jan. 20, 2010 2:50PM EST

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is being greeted by chanting anti-prorogation demonstrators in Toronto.

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Harper is going to really tank when the news runs this stuff everyday until the House resumes.

Toronto — The Canadian Press
Published on Wednesday, Jan. 20, 2010 2:50PM EST

Last updated on Wednesday, Jan. 20, 2010 5:50PM EST

Canada's convalescing economy may have topped Prime Minister Stephen Harper's agenda Wednesday, but anti-prorogation anger ended up hijacking his Toronto road show.

About 35 protesters from students to seniors picketed Mr. Harper's afternoon visit to the C.D. Howe Institute, chanting “Stop the prorogation, listen to the nation!”

It's just a taste of what's to come on Saturday, when thousands are expected to gather at rallies across Canada to protest the shutdown of Parliament, said Walied Khogali, who helped organize the demonstration.

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Stephen Harper's personal numbers tank. He is now in a virtual tie with Jack Layton.

Angus Reid llatest poll: Momentumscores even worse: Layton -9, Ignatieff -26, Harper -35.

Harper's momentum score is worse than Ignatieff's. Proroguation is killing the CPC.

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Minister's brother: Harper wants to dodge probe
By CHRISTINA SPENCER, Parliamentary bureau, QMI Agency

Last Updated: 10th January 2010, 5:25pm
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Facebook Digg Google Stumble Upon Newsvine Reddit Technorati Feed Me Yahoo Simpy Squidoo Spurl Blogmarks Netvouz Scuttle Sitejot + What are these? OTTAWA — The suspension of Parliament until March is under fire from the brother of one of Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s own cabinet colleagues.

Arthur Kent, the younger brother of Minister of State of Foreign Affairs Peter Kent, used his news blog Sunday to charge that Harper prorogued Parliament primarily to stifle discussion of Afghanistan.

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No to Libtoads

Stephen Harper is the greatest Prime Minister Canada has ever known. His ability to force parliament to do as he wishes is unmatched. The opposition is powerless because of his maneuvering and massive ad campaign. Parliamnet is reduced to the sidelines and is forced to watch as he defines what Canada should be. He has taken complete advantage of the weak Libs and split opposition. Once he gains control of the Senate, he will be able to implement Conservative policy for the betterment of Canada. This is a positive move for Canada, because he is well equipt to understand what is good for Canadians. Sometimes voters can be somewhat narrow in their viewpoints and Harper takes this into consideration, doing what is good for the country vs. what voters want. Sometimes tough choices need to be made. Go Harper go.

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byebye harper

New facebook page: Conservatives Calling for Stephen Harper to Step Down

All of us Conservatives owe a lot to Stephen Harper. He has united a movement that had been fraught with dissension an brought it together.

First he reunited the disintegrating Canadian Alliance

Then he brought the Alliance and Progressive Conservatives together into the Conservative Party of Canada

He then reduced the mighty Liberal machine under Paul Martin to a minority before claiming a minority of his own soon after.

He even was re-elected with a stronger minority, placing the Conservatives upon the cusp of a majority.

But in spite of his increased caucus and a humbled and divided Opposition, Stephen Harper took it upon himself to administer a death-blow to the Liberal party of Canada by withdrawing the taxpayer-subsidy for political parties.

Judging by recent comments by many otherwise unaffiliated voters, there might indeed be considerable support for revoking such subsidies.

But there was no mention, not even a hint, of such a move during the recent election campaign. Given that Mr. Harper, in addition to the other leaders, pledged, on multiple occasions to work together to deal with the global economic crisis the addition of this measure to the Economic Update can only be seen as a an attempt to brass-knuckle the Opposition.

This was ill-advised, this was unparliamentary, this was disrespectful to the Canadians who voted in the recent election.

This was stupid.

I still support the Conservative Party of Canada but should they survive the passage of a Budget on January 26 and its implementation, it will be time to consider a new leader. The Conservative project can go no further with Mr. Harper. If he stays it will begin to lose ground.

To Mr. Harper:

Thank you for all your hard work to build our party, we have much to thank you for. But it is now time to take the party in a new direction under a new leader and it is with regret that we, the members of this group, ask you to step down. We ask you to do this, not just for the good of the party but for the good of the country.
You succeed where so many had failed, and united the Right, it is time to retire you into the Conservative Hall of Fame, along with Preston Manning amongst others.

Again we thank you, but it is time for you to go.

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Latest Ekos poll:
The current poll of 2,517 Canadians was conducted between January 13 and 19. It shows the Conservatives and Liberals neck and neck at 31.5 per cent to 30.9 per cent overall.

It also notes the Liberals have regained a small lead in vote-rich Ontario (37.7 per cent versus 33.5 per cent) and a bigger lead in Atlantic Canada (41.8 per cent versus 28 per cent). They are also the top ranking federalist party in Quebec – 25.5 per cent for the Liberals; 18.1 per cent for the Tories compared to 11.2 per cent for the NDP, with the Bloc topping everyone at 36 per cent for the Bloc.

This tells me that the Libs would effectively win more seats if an election were held now due to the overwhelming support for the Tories in Alberta and some other parts of the west. The Quebec poll result is very interesting.

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Consertative Supporter

Time for Canadian companies to get the hell out of China, Time Chinese companies like Petro China to get the hell out of Canada, including Husky Oil or should I say the CEO. Canada does not want to be associated with countries that spy and cheat. Nor Canadian CEO's with links to the Communists. End trade with China, China owns Canada 30 billion dollars in Trade.

Get Out Now

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What a huge error by Harper. Or he knew this was coming and what he is covering up would do more damage than proroguation. Either way its really bad.

He has pissed off his core voters and its not going away. Older voters who actually vote. He's a gonner now.

David Eaves
Anti-prorogation activists: engaged, voting and older
The Canadian Press
Research suggests politicians and pundits should think twice before dismissing the 200,000-strong Facebook group

Special to The Globe and Mail
Published on Thursday, Jan. 21, 2010 11:55AM EST

Last updated on Thursday, Jan. 21, 2010 2:44PM EST

Over the last few weeks a number of pundits have been unsure how to react to sudden rise of the Facebook group Canadians Against Proroguing Parliament. Conservative politicians attempted to label the over 200,000-person strong group as part of "the chattering classes" and political pundits have questioned whether online protests even have meaning or weight.

What is more likely is that few politicians or pundits have actually spent time on the Facebook group and fewer still have tried to understand who its members are and what they believe. Recently Pierre Killeen, an Ottawa-based online public engagement strategist, conducted a survey of the group's membership in partnership with the Rideau Institute.

Over 340 members of the anti-prorogation Facebook group shared their views and while not a scientific survey, it does provide a window into the group's makeup and the motivations of its members. Some of the results will surprise both pundits and politicians:

Older than exepcted

To begin, contrary to the view that Facebook is entirely youth driven, just under half of those who completed the survey were 45 years of age or older. Thirty-four per cent were aged 31 to 44 and 16 per cent answered that they were aged 18 to 30. Not a single person who opted to take the survey was aged 12 to 18.

They vote

Perhaps the most interesting part of the survey was the fact that 96 per cent of the participants said they voted in the last federal election. Survey recipients frequently overstate their voting history (people wish to sound more responsible than they are) and this result should be regarded with some skepticism. However, it nonetheless suggests group members are more likely to vote than the general population. (Sixty per cent of Canadians voted in the last federal election).

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Wow, if an election were held today the Libs would win and Harper would lose. It just keeps getting worse for Harper. Time to resign Harper. And before the Olympics, you're only going to get booed anyway.

Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:15 AM

Liberals could skate ahead of Tories
on prorogation, poll finds
Jane Taber

1. Prorogation still resonates. Stephen Harper’s decision to shut down Parliament continues to bedevil him, with a new EKOS poll showing Michael Ignatieff’s Liberals are for the first time since late summer in a dead heat with the Conservatives.

Incredibly, too, the latest EKOS seat projections give the Liberals a three-seat advantage over the Conservatives if an election were held today - 117 to 114. The Tories now have 145 seats compared to 77 for the Liberals, out of a total of 308 seats in the House of Commons. (The new projection distributes the remaining seats as follows: 28 NDP, 47 Bloc, one Green and one Independent.)

[updated Thu Jan 21 17:59:38 -0500 2010]

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Third Notice

Reading the new EKOS poll and the results for the CPC are getting dismal. The future of that party is looking really bad. It seems all their support is coming from seniors. This does not bode well for the future of the party. No wonder the Libs are improving, in fact their future is more solid with their strength in the youth. The proroguation issue has awakened many apathetic voters that Harper has worked so hard to keep asleep.

"The Liberals are staging a comeback at the moment among many of their key regions and demographics. They have regained a modest lead in Ontario, and a larger one in the Atlantic provinces. They are now clearly the strongest federalist party in Quebec."

A nightmare for Conservatives. Harper has clearly lost all hope of a majority and the party needs a change in leadership.

[updated Thu Jan 21 22:01:52 -0500 2010]

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This is why you need to read the polls and not cut and paste as does the r.a.t. and his/her many alias are known to do.

Ekos poll. trend by day and please note where trend is going and that you should also consider that Ekos does not poll on Saturday and Sunday and based on the trend lines, the Conservatives may well have polled even higher at the end of the week if they had.

The Liberals started the week at 32.1% and end the week down 4.1% at 28.7% and the only reason is that they averaged out at 30.9% is because of one day where they polled at 37.3% and as anyone who has tracked trends, these one day wonders are often factoed out or the long term.

The Conservatives ended up 0.5%, for the week.

The NDP ended up 2.8%, for the week.

So, what do we see - well the Conservatives are up, the NDP is up and the Liberals are down - still "think" that they are going to force an election.

Jan 19 CPC 32.6%, Lib 28.7%, NDP 15.8%
Jan 18 CPC 31.5%, Lib 27.4%, NDP 15.1%
Jan 15 CPC 31.9%, Lib 29.4%, NDP 15.6%
Jan 14 CPC 27.7%, Lib 37.3%, NDP 14.5%
Jan 13 CPC 32.1%, Lib 32.8%, NDP 13.0%

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Date: January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: Chisholm Park

Date: January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: Central Avenue (Industrial mall)
Sponsored by Council of Canadians, Inverness County Chapter

Come and SPEAK OUT for DEMOCRACY in a moderated open discussion. Feel free to bring appropriate signs or placards for photos.
Date: Saturday, Jan 23
Time: 1:00 PM
Location: Saint John’s Anglican Hall, Main Street, Wolfville, NS
Contacts: Janet Eaton, 542 1631, Michaele Kustudic, 542 3462
“If you aren’t outraged, you aren’t paying attention” – the Raging Grannies

Date: January 23rd
Time: 1pm local time.
Location: Province House (1726 Hollis Street)
Wednesday, January 13 @ 630pm. Location TBA-email (please put PLANNING in the subject).

Date: January 23
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Wentworth Park Bandshell

Date: January 23
Time: 1:00-3:00 pm
Location: City Hall, front steps

Date: January 23rd
Time: 1pm local time
Location: City Hall Square (Main Street)
Guest Speaker - MP Yvon Godin
for more info: Danny Legere at

Date: January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: Germain Street entrance Saint John City Market

Date: January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Colonial Building, Military Road
Date: Wednesday, January 13
Time: 6:00 - 8:00 pm
Location: University Centre, 6th floor board room

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: Province House, at Grafton & University Ave

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Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: TBA
Date: Monday, January 11
Time: 6:30 pm
Location: McGill University Centre (3480 McTavish) room 433A

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: TBA

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Dundas Square (Southeast corner of Yonge and Dundas)
Rally March Route: Start at Dundas Square, South on Yonge to Queen. West on Queen to Bay. North on Bay to College. East on College to Yonge. South on Yonge to finish at Dundas Square.
Date: Friday Jan 15th
Time: 5:30pm - 8:30pm
Location: Sidney Smith Hall Room 2117, 100 St. George St.

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Parliament Hill
Thursday, January 14, 2010
Time: 6:00pm - 8:00pm
Location: Couch lounge, Jock Turcot University Centre (University of Ottawa campus)

Date: January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Market Square (behind City Hall)

Date: January 23
Time: 1:00 - 4:00 pm
Location: 133 Main St, West North Bay (Anthony Rota, area MP office)

Date: Saturday January 23
Time: 1:00pm-2:00pm
Location: Outside the Orillia Opera House

Date: January 23
Time: 1:00pm - 2:00pm
Location: Sudbury Taxation Center, 1050 Notre Dame Avenue
Date: Tuesday, January 12
Time: 7:00 pm
Location: Laughing Buddha Pub, Elgin St.

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Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Fred Grant Memorial Square (on Dunlop St)

Date: January 23
Time: 11:00 am
Location: Outside Tony Clement's office

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Daryl Kramp's Constituency Office @ 1 Millennium Parkway

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Starting at Confederation Park. March through downtown to Peterborough Public Library for Speakers and Information.
We will be serving hot drinks and hot Potato “PROROGIES”.

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 11:30 am - 12:10 pm
Location: Rick Norlock's Constituency Office, Division and Covert Streets, Cobourg; then travel to Peterborough to join their rally.

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Newmarket Town Square
- Thursday January 14 2009 at 7pm
Everything Chocolate Cafe
(130 Davis Drive, Newmarket -- Newmarket Plaza next to Salvation Army)
- January 19, 2009, 7pm to 8pm.
Newmarket Public Library

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00-4:00 pm
Location: 1131 2nd Avenue East

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Lakehead Labour Centre, 929 Fort William Rd

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Outside Tony Martin's Office, 369 Queen St. East

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:30 - 4:30 pm
WHITBY - Flaherty's Office: Whitby 701 Rossland Road East- Unit 204. Whitby, Ontario L1N 8Y9;
OSHAWA - Colin Carrie's Office: Lord Simcoe Place ▪ 57 Simcoe St S, Suite 2B ▪ Oshawa, ON ▪ L1H 4G4
Date: Thursday, January 14
Time: 7:30pm - 9:30pm
Location: Whitby Library Central Branch - Rm 1A - 7:30pm

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Gore Park, by Jackson Square (at the intersection of King and James)
Date: Thursday, January 21
Time: 6:00 pm - 8:00 pm
Location: TBA

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00-2:30 pm
Location: Heritage Park, across from MP Terence Young's office, 337 Kerr St, (South of Speers)

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: TBA
Thursday January 14th 2010
Location: University of Toronto Mississauga – Student Center – Room 100 (Green Room) – 3359 Mississauga Road North
Time: 6 – 8:00 p.m.
Contact: 416-625-7712
When: Saturday January 16th 2009
Where: 1270 Central Parkway West
Time: 2:00 p.m
Contact: 416-625-7712

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Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 11:00 am local time
Location: Waterloo Public Square (on King Street South, in front of the Waterloo Town Square Mall)

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: St George Square

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 12:00 - 1:00 pm
Location: Victoria Park - Richmond and Central Entrance
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010
Time: 2:00pm - 3:00pm
Location: East Village Coffee House, 785 Dundas St.

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 12:00 noon
Location: corner of Ontario and Downie Streets (near the fountain)
Bring flags, bells and get ready to sing O Canada. Drop by to sign petitions to send to our federal leaders.

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: Windsor City Hall
Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010
Time: 2:00pm - 4:00pm
Location: WWAC 328 Pellisier St

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00-4:00 pm
Location: University of Winnipeg, room TBA, followed by a march to Legislative building and back to the University for hot chocolate
DATE: Saturday, January 16, 2010
TIME: 10:30am - 12:30pm

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: City Hall
Date: Tuesday, January 12
Time: 7:30pm - 9:00pm
Location: Amigos Street: 632 - 10th Street East

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:30 pm
Location: PA Union Centre, 107-8th St. E.
co-sponsored by the Prince Albert Chapter of The Council of Canadians and the PA and District Labour Council

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: Scarth Street Mall
Date: Sunday, January 17
Time: 7:00pm - 9:00pm
Location: Copper Kettle Restaurant @ 1953 Scarth St

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Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00-2:30 pm local time
Location: Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Constituency Office
1600 - 90th Avenue SW
Date: Sunday, January 10
Time: 10:00am - 11:30am
Location: deVille Luxury Coffee & Pastries
#214 - 100 - 7th Avenue, South West (2nd floor of Art Central , across from Hyatt)

Date: Saturday January 23, 2010
Time: 1:00 PM
Location: In front of MP Chris Warkentin’s constituency office, #201, 10625 West Side Drive, Grande Prairie, Alberta
(south of GP College, behind the Holiday Inn)

Date: Saturday, January 23
March @ 11:00 am begins at Corbett Hall on UofA campus (8205 114 St NW)
Rally @ 12:00 pm at Old Strathcona Gazebo Park next to the Farmer’s Market (10310 83 Ave)
Date: Wednesday, January 13
Time: 7:00pm - 10:00pm
Location: Strathcona Branch Public Library @S 8331 - 104 Street

Date: Saturday January 23rd
Time: 1:00pm
Location: MP Chris Warkentin's constituency office, #201, 10625 West Side Drive, Grand Prarie, AB

Date: Saturday January 23rd
Time: 12:00pm local time
Location: Rick Casson's office at 255 8th St S

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Vancouver Art Gallery, March to Victory Square

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Centennial Square (Douglas at Pandora)
Date: Saturday, January 16
Time: 12:00 pm
Location: Solstice Cafe

Date: Saturday, January 23
Location: TBA

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 11:00-1:00
Location: on the Koksilah pedestrian overpass over the TransCanada Hwy, just south of Allenby Road, Duncan, BC. To access the overpass, turn on to Chaster Rd at the light, and follow it to the overpass. Contact Nancy Clegg 250-743-1042 for more information.

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Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 10:00 AM
Location: Meet at Smorgasbord Deli, 225-7th Avenue, Kamloops
March to MP Cathy McLeod’s office, 979 Victoria St.

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 11:00 am to 12:00 noon
Location: in front of conservative MP Randy Kamp’s office
22720 Lougheed Highway, Maple Ridge, BC V2X 2V6

Date: Monday, January 25, 2010
Time: 12:00 noon
Location: Office of MP James Lunney
#6 – 6894 Island Highway North, Nanaimo, BC
Sponsor: Oceanside Coalition for Strong Communities

Date: Saturday January 23
Time: 1pm
Location: Corner of Sparks and 4700 Block Lakelse Ave (empty lot)

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: 301 Main Street, outside Stockwell Day's office
Date: Wednesday, January 13
Time: 6 pm
Location: 697 Martin St (at Eckhardt), Penticton


Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Fishermen’s Hall, 869 Fraser Street

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: Corner of Gordon and Hwy 97, Kelowna
Date: Saturday, January 16
Time: 1:00-3:30 pm
Location: #1250 Glenmore Rd N, at the All Saints Lutheran Church (basement of house).

Date: Monday January 25th
Time: 12:00pm local time
Location: MP James Lunney's Office, 6 - 6894 Island Highway North

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 1:00 pm local time
Location: outside the Elijah Smith building (300 Main Street, Whitehorse, YT).

Date: Saturday, January 23rd
Time: 11:00 am local time
Location: NTFL Headquarters, Stanton Plaza

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Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00pm - 3:00pm
Location: Outside the Canadian Consulate
1251 Avenue of the Americas, (b/w 49th and 50th)

Date: Saturday January 23
Time: 1:00pm-3:00pm
Location: Outside the Canadian Consulate

Date: Saturday, January 23
Time: 1:00 pm
Location: Canadian Consulate of San Francisco
580 California Street, San Francisco, CA 94104
Please RSVP to the event on facebook if you are interested in coming.

Date: January 23
Time: 2:00-4:00 pm
Location: Canadian Embassy - The Hague

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Consertative Supporter

Message To: Peter Van Loan Rookie Minister of Trade (This could be his last Ministry if he does perform the way Canadians want)

China owes Canada 30 Billion in Trade, what are you going to do about it?

End Trade with China now, until they pay up.

Chinese companies leave Canada now: PetroChina and Husky Oil both have links to the Communist in Beige

Check with CIDA to see if they are stilling funneling money into China under the Jean Chretien program, better known as Jean the Corrupt.
Conservative - Reform

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This is just the beginning of the nightmare for Harper and the dishonest CON's.

From Facebook to filling the streets
The Canadian Press
How social media tools spurred 25,000 Canadians to strap placards to hockey sticks and tell Stephen Harper they've had enough

Ottawa — Special to The Globe and Mail
Published on Saturday, Jan. 23, 2010 8:05PM EST

More than 25,000 people from across the country strapped protest signs to hockey sticks, grabbed a hot Tim Hortons coffee, braved the cold and told Prime Minister Stephen Harper to “get back to work.” Twenty-five thousand. Using what I heard from the protesters, reporters and bloggers on Twitter, that’s my estimate of how many Canadians took to the streets today.

In ten years working on Parliament Hill, I’ve had a front-row seat to all kinds of mass gatherings and rarely do you see one this co-ordinated, this large and this unified. It takes a lot to make Canadians take to the streets in numbers worth noting.

People in Ottawa come to the front lawn of Parliament to commemorate, celebrate and to mourn. We line up by the hundreds to pay tribute to prime ministers who’ve passed away. Canada Day tests the number of Canucks you can squeeze into downtown Ottawa on one afternoon. Concerts and even a Much Music show or two have turned the lawn into a dance floor for thousands.

But, by far the most common reason for people to gather en masse on the Hill is to protest and that usually isn't that popular among Canadians. But something happened today: a lot of ordinary Canadians joined together across party and partisan lines to protest in support of their common belief.

Estimated Crowd Attendance for #CAPP Rallies

Of all the thousands of people who have gathered on the Hill protesting countless causes, no single event has ever been driven to such an extent by the use of online communication tools as a means to connect, collaborate and organize opposition. Facebook is a high social capital network of friends and family. This is the motivator that drove hundreds in small towns across Canada to join larger protests in Toronto, Ottawa and Vancouver.

Never before has Facebook filled Canada’s streets. It did today. Friends and families reached out to one another to voice their collective disgust at a system that allows the Prime Minister to silence the voice of debate in the House of Commons on a whim.

From the thousands of Canadians across British Columbia to the near 10,000 people that amassed and marched through the streets of Toronto to the 150 who gathered in Antigonish and all the hundreds and hundreds in communities across the country in between – their voices were unified. Canada needs its House of Commons up and running.

Trevor Strong of the satirical band The Arrogant Worms addressed the crowd gathered on Parliament Hill before singing and said: “You know when I’m at a rally something has gone really wrong.”

It seems a lot of other people thought so too.

And those 25,000 people, who know something has "gone really wrong" with the way their country is being run, used an online communications tool to manifest a real-world protest that – in Canadian terms – was extremely impressive.

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One thing the Tories have counted on is to maintain voter apathy in the population which is the only thing that makes them electable by a minority of Canada's population.

This would appear to be changing with prorogation and other nasty undemocratic stuff by the reformatories. The very fact that Ontario is swinging back to its Liberal roots is a harbringer of things to come. A Liberal Canada that is supported by the majority of the population.

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Just a cut and paste, because why comment on a non issue about a fringe group and did you "no" that the Christan Hertiage Party had 26,475 supporters in the last election and tat is 6,000 more than turned up for the non event where 1/10th of 1 percent show up..

By for now and this should keep you busy and should generate at least two more ID`s from you.

So keep, your feet on the yellow brick road and try not sing so loudly and proudly it is waking up all those sleeping Liberals in the Upper House.

1. Will public outrage abate? Prorogation has run its course and the issue will die down, according to Ipsos-Reid president Darrell Bricker.

2) But, he predicts, it may get a little worse for the Harper government before it gets better.

3) These are his findings from his firm’s latest national survey.

4) In some ways, the new Ipsos-Reid poll confirms what the EKOS poll showed last week - that Michael Ignatieff's Liberals are on the charge.

5) While EKOS HAS the two man parties tied, the Ipsos-Reid poll has the Conservatives maintaining a tenuous lead - 34 per cent for Stephen Harper's Tories compared to 31 per cent for the Liberals, which represents a seven-point increase from their dark days in November.

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Harper continues to sink in today's poll. He is trying to counter this slide with a new round of expensive taxpayer funded ads and hiding behind Haiti. Haiti will fade soon from the front pages leaving harper with more wasteful spending on ads, a bad report on stimulus spending and the proroguation issue which will not go away.

Published on Sunday, Jan. 24, 2010 11:49PM EST

Last updated on Monday, Jan. 25, 2010 8:44AM EST

Today, Parliament sits silent, shuttered by one man. It is a sad day for Canadians who see how estranged their government has become from the country's democratic lifeblood. Not only that: Stephen Harper's decision to prorogue Parliament is an abrogation of the principles he and his party arose to defend.

Canada has a parliamentary government, by the executive (the prime minister and the cabinet, as delegated by the Queen and her governor-general) but accountable and responsible to the people, via its representatives (the House of Commons). This, in short, is our democracy, established after considerable struggle. But it is not a convenience or a steady state, and it has been tested by overreaching executives from its inception. From time to time, an unease about that grasp has moved Canadians to action. For instance, in the late 1980s, an era of backroom constitutional deal-making, it helped prompt the birth of a new party, and these words in one of that party's foundational documents:

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Conservative cheers Ignatieff, while slamming Harper for phoney proroguation excuses and ducking the truth about Afghanistan.

Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:24 PM EST Norman Spector

Two cheers for Mr. Ignatieff

First cheer: Last week, Michael Ignatieff defended prorogation as a legitimate prime ministerial power, but said he would never use it simply to avoid “a tight spot” as Stephen Harper has done.

Second cheer: Yesterday, Mr. Ignatieff outlined his priorities for the March budget, but refused to put “conditions” on supporting it; rather, the Official Opposition will take a decision after seeing the contents.

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Economic Action Scam

Conservatives scramble and are in disarray. Anti-Prorogation bigger than Harper thought.

CTV's Ottawa bureau chief Robert Fife says he thinks the Conservatives have been taken aback by the anger their decision has generated among average Canadians.

"They're trying to react by holding news conferences and events almost every day, but privately, they will tell you that this completely backfired on them and frankly, they don't know how to get out of it," Fife told Canada AM.

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Economic Action Scam

Contrary to claims that prudent spending is on the way, the Conservatives have launched a brand new, multi-million dollar advertising campaign using tax-payer money to promote their so-called Economic Plan.

If Stockwell Day, our newly-minted Treasury Board President, is serious about cutting unnecessary and wasteful expenditures, he should start with the government’s new multi-million dollar, partisan-propaganda TV advertising campaign.

Stephen Harper is full of lame excuses for using your money to promote himself, with his laughable claim that government advertising is economic stimulus for media outlets. Spending millions of taxpayer dollars on television ads promoting this government’s partisan agenda makes it pretty clear that Mr. Day has no more credibility when it comes to prudent spending than his predecessor.

The Harper Conservatives’ contradictory behavior, rationalizing cuts to organizations that challenge their political agenda while increasing advertising spending to promote themselves. The Conservatives have recently cut funding to three prominent organizations that have been critical of the government, including the Canadian Council on Learning, the Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences, and to KAIROS, an international development agency made up Canada’s churches.

On the one hand, the Conservatives are saying they need to be frugal, using this as an excuse to punish organizations that have been rightly critical of this government’s record. On the other hand, they waste money on TV ads to make Canadians believe that they’re hard at work when instead they’ve shut down Parliament, where they should be doing the job Canadians elected them to do.

From January to June of last year alone, the Conservatives spent $56 million on so-called Economic Plan advertising. With this new TV campaign and ads running throughout the fall, this figured has likely doubled, breaking the $100 million mark.

By launching this new TV campaign to advertise their so-called Economic Plan, almost a full year since the last budget, the Conservatives are simply trying to change the channel,” continued Coady. “Let’s not kid ourselves – this is partisan propaganda on an unprecedented scale, with no other purpose than to try to distract Canadians from Stephen Harper’s unpopular decision to shut down Parliament.

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Economic Action Scam

Harper continues the cover up by cutting off Colvin's legal funding (which he is entitled to, and if he was a CON he would get it and then some). This was done purposely so he can no longer appear at the inquiry. It is time Canadian's oust this dictator and scam artist.

Steven Chase

Ottawa — The Globe and Mail
Published on Monday, Jan. 25, 2010 10:34AM EST

Last updated on Monday, Jan. 25, 2010 11:11AM EST

The Canadian diplomat who charged that Ottawa turned a blind eye to his warnings about torture of Afghan prisoners now says he's being punished by the Harper government for speaking out.

Richard Colvin's lawyer talks of this "reprisal" in a letter released today that says Ottawa is ignoring his requests for further legal aid funding as he prepares to appear before an inquiry investigating the handling of Afghan prisoners.

Mr. Colvin, who reignited the long-simmering Afghan detainee issue last fall, is entitled to government funding because he's a public servant.

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IR poll breakdown shows prorogation a huge hit for Harper. No fringe group here:

Ont +9 Lib -2 CPC

Que +6 Lib -5 CPC

BC +7 Lib -1 CPC

Alta +3 Lib NA CPC

Prairies NA Lib -12 CPC

Atlantic +22 Lib -8 CPC

Massively bad numbers for Harper. The only thing keeping him competative is Albertas lopsided numbers.

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Harper Has 2 Go

Liberals are hard at work in Ottawa, trying to restore democracy after Harper shut down Parliament to hide the truth. Harper is desperately trying to silence the truth by firing, pulling funding and underming inquiries. All this and he now shuts down the voice of the people -Parliament. This tyranny has to stop.

This article shows what disgrace of a PM Harper is:

Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:20 PM

Watchdogs describe coming 'under attack'
by Conservative government
Colin Freeze

A trio of recently fired watchdogs visited a prorogued Parliament today to complain that the Conservatives are "at war" with the government's independent tribunals.

The forum, organized as a prorogation protest measure by the Liberals, aired angry remarks from Canada's former police, military and nuclear watchdogs. Their common complaint? The independence of important "quasi-judicial" bodies is being undercut by political interference.

"This isn't somewhere you put a [body] in that seat to keep it warm," said Paul Kennedy, who lost his job as chair of the RCMP Public Complaints Commission last month. He had served four years, but the Conservative government did not renew his term.

"I'm a strong proponent of independent oversight of the government and its agencies," said Mr. Kennedy, a combative complaints chair who has a 35-year background in federal security agencies.

Politicians, he said, stifle dissent from "bothersome" watchdog agencies by starving them of funding or by appointing ineffective chairs. (An estate lawyer with political connections was named to replace Mr. Kennedy last week.)

Administrative tribunals are "under attack by the federal government," said Linda Keen, former chief executive at the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission. She recounted how she was "fired" by the Prime Minister and Minister of Natural Resources last year.

"I said at the time this is going to send a chill through federal tribunals," she said in a videotaped message. "... Are we in an era where tribunals must be more interested in meeting the needs of the government than in doing their jobs?"

More diplomatic was Peter Tinsley, whose term as chair of the Military Police Complaints Commission, was not renewed last year.

The commission made news for probing the Afghan detainee controversy, the same hot-button issue that many observers say forced the Tories to prorogue Parliament this winter.

"The perception has become widespread that something is not quite right in the system," Mr. Tinsley said.

Too often, he said, political "horsetrading" and unelected staffers play key roles in hiring and firing watchdogs that serve at the whim of the government they are appointed to criticize.

"The potential for abuse itself does not bode well for good governance," Mr. Tinsley said.

Canada has about 30 quasi-judicial bodies where administrative officials oversee government agencies, often with an eye to protecting public safety and upholding ethics. Many of these positions are government-in-council appointments, political decisions made by the government of the day.

Fixed terms, merit-based appointments, performance evaluation, and more independence would go a long way to making sure these bodies do their jobs, the panelists said.

The forum was the first in a series organized by the Liberal Party. Many MPs attended and the event was kicked off by remarks from Michael Ignatieff.

"Liberals are at work as you can see. ... Our purpose today is to use Parliament Hill the way it should be used," he said.

Canadians need to understand the autocratic reality of Stephen Harper. He must go.

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Wow! This prorogation is really killing Harper. Since last night it has bumped Haiti as the top story and continues to be that way on all networks. It is also front page news as well. Haiti as a news story is settling in and proroguation is now back on top. The CPC better get a new leader fast, because this hasn't even gotten started. Its going to get worse until he goes.

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More reasons for the CPC to get a new leader. He is dragging the party down.

Don Martin: Harper's master-tactician credentials take another blow
Posted: January 26, 2010, 2:45 AM by Daniel Kaszor
Don Martin, politics, Harper, Prorogue
Cleaning staff were giving the empty House of Commons a half-hearted dusting yesterday, but a custodian told me they’ll soon haul out cranes to polish hard-to-reach ceiling lights or fixtures.

Such are the janitorial challenges of keeping busy on Parliament Hill these days, Canada being the only G7 seat of government still on Christmas holidays, with another five weeks to go before MPs are back on house duty.

The Hill was alive only to the sounds of Liberal teeth-gnashing and an off-key unilingual version of O Canada by NDP MPs as news conferences and make-work committees were staged by opposition forces.

But on the heels of surprisingly robust anti-prorogation protests on the weekend, the strategic genius of Prime Minister Stephen Harper must come under renewed scrutiny.

His decision to prorogue still has no rationale beyond avoiding contact with the Afghan detainee controversy, which was the real catalyst, former Harper chief of staff Tom Flanagan told a CBC politics broadcast.

In an ironic case of bad timing, the first scheduled day for Parliament’s return featured the detainee ruckus reappearing on the radar.

In a development that suggests the Harper government has learned nothing from its attacks in the fall, the lawyer for diplomat Richard Colvin accused the government of vindictiveness in stalling its response to requests for the required funds to pay his client’s legal bills.

Every poll showed the public believed Mr. Colvin’s version of the detainee mess after he was subpoenaed to testify about his warnings that Taliban suspects were being routinely tortured in Afghan-run prisons. He was viewed as a credible, sympathetic figure by the public, but assaulted as an ignorant, unreliable Taliban stooge by the government.

It seems a deliberate provocation to prove it still has a mean streak, but it’s not the first time Mr. Harper has sabotaged his own popularity.

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Harper busy stealing your democracy and using Haiti as cover.

Travers: PM's score: Haiti 1, democracy 0Published On Tue Jan 26 2010Email Print Republish Add to Favourites Report an error Share Share11 Article
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By James Travers
National Affairs Columnist
OTTAWA - Best intentions and worst practices are rarely in such stark contrast. Canada is leading the world in promising to rebuild Haiti while democracy here is being dismantled-brick-by-brick.

More than a politically convenient coincidence connects help for Haiti and the threat to Canada. Reconstructing a broken state demands more than yesterday's vague commitments from the international community. Restoring democracy demands more than opposition protests over Parliament's second successive suspension in just 13 months.

Experience reminds that time will expose equivocations in promises and hypocrisy in dissent. Fickle attention and cascading events will eventually push Haiti back into the shadows where its suffering can again be safely forgotten. Shifting political fortunes here will change the perspectives of at least some of those now savaging Stephen Harper's recent victories in the decades-long struggle to make Parliament subservient to prime ministers.

Repairing Haiti and fixing democracy share a common denominator. Neither can happen unless generosity trumps self-interest.

Without leaders who grasp the now, often lost meaning of public service, Haiti and Canada will be trapped in repeating history. In the Caribbean, petty bickering between and within donor countries, global institutions and aid agencies will soon corrode yesterday's goodwill. In this capital, party leaders now outraged by Harper abuses will be drawn to the same dodges if or when power drifts to them.

For Haiti, escaping familiar aid trends is an overwhelming existential challenge that dwarfs the danger to our democracy. Unlike other catastrophes that have momentarily gripped the world's conscience, the earthquake rolled back Haiti's recent modest progress, leaving it without the capacity to respond. Unlike Sri Lanka, struck by the 2004 tsunami, or Ethiopia wracked by serial famines, Haiti has only fragments of government, infrastructure and economy.

According to Charles Bassett, a former top Canadian diplomat and development expert who knows Haiti, it will take at least 20 years, twice as long as Harper suggests, to make a lasting difference there. And that will only happen if countries as disparate as the United States, France and Venezuela, as well organizations as cumbersome as the United Nations, put aside distrust, competition and jealousy.

Sustainable recovery requires, among other things, international acceptance that Canada, with little to gain and proven Haiti credentials, is ceded the authority to play, rather than merely be seen to play, the lead reconstruction role. Just as urgently, recovery requires that this country's strong early response lasts many electoral cycles beyond today's reflex sympathy and the channel-changing benefits to the Prime Minister of diverting attention from a padlocked Parliament.

Doubting the sincerity of the Conservative Haiti commitment is uncharitable. Still, Harper has squandered all benefit of the doubt by breaking his promises to make his government accountable and redistribute Parliament's badly distorted balance of power.

Needed here are parallel projects. One would replace distant Afghanistan with neighbour Haiti at the centre of Canadian foreign and aid policy. The other would restore the bonds prime ministers since Pierre Trudeau incrementally slipped and this one finds so inconvenient.

Harper is asking the world to stand up for Haiti. Canadians should expect him and his successors to do as much for democracy.

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Harper is tanking the CPC and allowwng Ignatieff to gain in the polls. Problem is, Canadians are really angry despite the lies being spread by the CPC propaganda workers that they don't care. I heard a CON MP from BC say he has heard no complaints about prorogation and Canadians only care about the economy. That's not even a smart lie. Its pathetically stupid and is precisely why Harper is crashing in the polls, because he thinks Camnadian voters are stupid.

Liberals get a boost from Parliamentary prorogation
Grits think they have have a good shot at forming the next government.

Published January 25, 2010

After a brutal 2009, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's decision to prorogue Parliament has given Grit Leader Michael Ignatieff a new lease on life, say Liberals.

At the Liberal national caucus meeting last week the focus was on formulating solid public policy positions for when Parliament returns, and in anticipation of the next election, which for the first time in a long time the Liberals think they might win.

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Do conservatives support child pornography?

If the answer is no, then could someone please explain why Harper decided to kill the following legislation before it became law;

C-58 Child Protection Act (Online Sexual Exploitation) (cracks down on child pornography)

Unfortunately it's difficult to understand why they would kill such legislation without forcing us to come to our own conclusions.

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Massive structural deficit here we come to pay for Harper's campaign strategy.

Gloria Galloway

Ottawa — From Wednesday's Globe and Mail
Published on Tuesday, Jan. 26, 2010 9:27PM EST

Last updated on Tuesday, Jan. 26, 2010 9:30PM EST

Canada's commitment to playing a lead role in a pair of major new international aid projects has some stakeholders wondering: In the midst of a clampdown on spending, where will Ottawa find the money?

On Monday, Prime Minister Stephen Harper promised that Canadians would stay in Haiti and help rebuild that devastated country for at least 10 years. Then on Tuesday he said the health of the world's mothers and their children would be a primary focus of the June meeting of the Group of Eight in Ontario's cottage country.

The new projects, coupled with the country's sizable financial commitments to Afghanistan, have spawned concerns that any aid flowing to new priorities will siphon money away from existing ones. What's more

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Harper does not want new rules for proroguation. He wants to lock all desent and shutdown the truth. His pathetic lie of an excuse is that it is needed to stop undemocratic coalitions. The problem is that coalitions ARE democratic and it is he who is undemocratic and again misleading Canadians as if they were stupid.

Consensus that should be
Fred Lum/The Globe and Mail
The Liberals and NDP have provided a good first draft of prorogation reform. But all four parties should recognize this path as a way to strengthen Canada's democracy

Published on Tuesday, Jan. 26, 2010 12:00AM EST

The Liberals are right to propose that future prorogations should take place with the consent of the House of Commons. They have also advanced the debate on this matter by saying that Commons committees should have the option to continue their work, while the House is out of session.

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BRUSMIT here is a cut and paste loser. I just cut and pasted all the ID`s that you have put out there for all my ids that have not been suspended and if they suspend these ones I will just create some more.

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Just a cut and paste about the non event and its impact in Quebec.

01) If you want to understand why the Bloc has been lukewarm to Michael Ignatieff’s proposal in regard to the power to prorogue – and why Prime Minister Stephen Harper doesn’t appear to be having any anxiety attacks – a new poll conducted from Jan. 14 to 24 by CROP, one of the province’s leading pollsters, would be a good place to start.

02) Satisfaction with the government since the last poll in October has declined by one point, from 37 per cent to 36 per cent ... the dissatisfied have increased by 1 per cent, from 58 to 59 per cent ... notwithstanding the Liberal campaign against prorogation….

03) On the ballot question, the news is no better for the Liberals – the Ignatieff effect has worn off … the Liberals are at 24 per cent ... which is what they obtained under Stéphane Dion in the last election … the Conservatives are 21 per cent, which is where they have stood since September, 2009.

04) Michael Ignatieff is seen as the best PM by 20 per cent of Quebeckers, the same as in October.

05) His slide began in April 2009, when he was seen as best PM by 45 per cent of Quebeckers.

06) Stephen Harper is also treading water at around 24 per cent, which is where he was in September 2009. Jack Layton is at 28 per cent.

07) On the ballot question, the Bloc is down 3 points to 34 per cent, which is where it stood last September and 4 points less than its result in the 2008 election.

08) The NDP is up 5 points, from 12 per cent to 17 per cent.

09) Among francophones, the Bloc is at 40 per cent, the Conservatives at 20 per cent and the Liberals are at 19 per cent.

10) The regional breakdown is important: the Conservatives are at 15 per cent in Montreal but at 33 per cent in the Quebec region, where they won their seats in the last election and where the Bloc now stands at 24 per cent and the Liberals are at 22 per cent.

11) In Montreal, the Bloc and the Grits are neck-and-neck – 32 to 30 per cent. In the rest of Quebec, the Bloc is at 39 per cent, the Conservatives are at 25 per cent and the Liberals are at 16 per cent.

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Todays insulting name calling spam from brusmit. This loser should be banned.

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more sleeze from Harper. Canadians are fed up with his dishonesty and treating Canadians as fools.

Tories pile on insult to injury
Colvin affair proves reputation for vindictiveness

John Ivison, National Post
Published: Tuesday, January 26, 2010

There are times when, were it not for the Liberal party and much of the media, theConservatives would be their own worst enemy. The Afghan detainee file is a case in point where the government is so consumed with pursuing its irrational vendettas, it can't see how its actions hurt its standing with reasonable people.

Yesterday, the lawyer for Richard Colvin said the government has denied the diplomat legal funding as a "reprisal" for his damaging testimony at the parliamentary committee into the Afghan detainees issue. In reality, the government hasn't denied future funding, it just hasn't approved repeated requests in the past two months.

This may simply be due to the glacial pace of bureaucratic activity, but who, given this government's track record for pettiness, would discount political involvement?

Some Conservatives may get a perverse sense of pleasure by denying funding to someone they see as a political opponent, but for many Canadians, it will only reinforce the government's reputation for vindictiveness.

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New poll shows Harper continues to drag the CPC down, even with Haiti. This is the beginning of the end for him. Harper is tanking and this time he's mot coming back. Too many people now hate him.

Tories and Liberals slide ‘back into
too-close-to-call territory'
The Canadian Press
Published on Wednesday, Jan. 27, 2010 4:30PM EST

Last updated on Wednesday, Jan. 27, 2010 4:52PM EST

Canada's swift response to the tragedy in Haiti hasn't boosted the federal government's popularity among voters, a new poll suggests.

Voters apparently remain unhappy about Prime Minister Stephen Harper's unpopular decision to prorogue Parliament and aren't swayed by the popular effort to help Haiti, pollster Allan Gregg said.

The latest Harris-Decima survey conducted for the Canadian Press suggests the Conservatives and Liberals are in a statistical dead heat, with 32 per cent supporting the Tories and 31 per cent for the Liberals.

The gap is well within the poll's margin of error.

“We're back into too-close-to-call territory,” Gregg said.

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Canadians are finally starting to take notice:

More Bad News for the Harper neocon cabal . . .

Government gets failing grade on food safety from union, consumers' group

27/01/2010 7:28:00 PM

OTTAWA - The government hasn't improved the food-safety system six months after the fatal listeriosis outbreak, food inspectors and a consumers group said Wednesday.

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2nd place Harper

Crushing blow for Harper. New EKOS poll tonight shows Liberals in lead. Its only going to get worse for Harper from here on out. They might as well get a new leader if they ever have any hopes of a majority. No one trusts Harper anymore or believes anything he says. Too many lies and they have caught up with him.

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Harper the international embarassment and autocrat. The plight of women as his cause, what a hyocrite.

Harper remains silent on rights agency fiascoComment on this story »
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By Haroon Siddiqui
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Only a handful of non-Canadians, such as Nelson Mandela, have been bestowed the Order of Canada. Last year, Dr. Sima Samar of Afghanistan was so honoured, for defending human rights, especially women's rights – the same values that are at the core of Canada's Afghan mission.

So it's highly embarrassing that she has resigned in protest from the board of Canada's leading human rights agency, Rights and Democracy. She quit over what she felt were the autocratic and ideological ways of its Stephen Harper appointees, especially the chair, Aurel Braun, professor of political science at the U of T.

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"Less than one-in-five Canadians (18%) agree with the government’s decision to prorogue Parliament"

It seems the fringe group is Harper and his supporters. Harper and his mouthpieces that called the anti-prorogue a fronge group look like fools over this one.

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So we now have three polling companies with different results showing the Liberal strength has been over stated in Quebec.

Crop Poll results

The regional breakdown is important: the Conservatives are at 15 per cent in Montreal but at 33 per cent in the Quebec region, where they won their seats in the last election and where the Bloc now stands at 24 per cent and the Liberals are at 22 per cent.

In Montreal, the Bloc and the Grits are neck-and-neck – 32 to 30 per cent. In the rest of Quebec, the Bloc is at 39 per cent, the Conservatives are at 25 per cent and the Liberals are at 16 per cent.

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Weekly tracking Numbers, 01/13/2010 - 01/19/2010 - 2,517 Decided Voters and Leaning

01/13/2010 - CPC 32.1%, Liberals 32.8%, NDP 13.0%, Bloc 8.8%, GP 11.6%
01/14/2010 - CPC 27.7%, Liberals 37.3%, NDP 14.5%, Bloc 9.8%, GP 9.3%
01/15/2010 - CPC 31.9%, Liberals 29.4%, NDP 15.6%, Bloc 8.4%, GP 12.7%
01/18/2010 - CPC 31.5%, Liberals 27.4%, NDP 15.1%, Bloc 8.2%, GP 13.4%
01/19/2010 - CPC 32.6%, Liberals 28.7%, NDP 15.8%, Bloc 9.7%, GP 11.6%

Weekly tracking Numbers, 01/20/2010 - 01/26/2010 - 2,823 Decided Voters and Leaning

01/202010 - CPC 30.4%, Liberals 29.0%, NDP 12.9%, Bloc 12.6%, GP 11.0%
01/21/2010 - CPC 33.2%, Liberals 30.7%, NDP 11.4%, Bloc 9.4%, GP 11.0%
01/22/2010 - CPC 32.7%, Liberals 31.3%, NDP 14.9%, Bloc 8.6%, GP 12.3%
01/25/2010 - CPC 31.31%, Liberals 32.1%, NDP 16.6%, Bloc 8.4%, GP 10.5%
01/26/2010 - CPC 28.9%, Liberals 33.4%, NDP 15.9%, Bloc 8.8%, GP 9.1%

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Here is the data from the last seven Ekos polls, covering from November 5th to January 26th and it will be interesting to compare the trends in these polls to Mr. Nanos next poll.

What it interesting to note is that the other three polling companies Ipos Reid, Angus Reid and Harris Decima have the Conservatives and Liberals tied in Ontario and Ekos has the Liberals with a 7.6% lead.


01/26 Conservatives 32.4%, Liberals 27.1%;
01/19 Conservatives 35.7%, Liberals 25.2%;
01/12 Conservatives 32.8%, Liberals 22.7%;
01/05 Conservatives 34.2%, Liberals 21.4%;
12/17 Conservatives 35.0%, Liberals 23.6%;
11/26, Conservatives 36.2%, Liberal 23.2%;
11/05 Conservatives 41.8%, Liberals 20.1%;


01/26 Conservatives 50.2%, Liberals 18.6%;
01/19 Conservatives 47.2%, Liberals 23.9%;
01/12 Conservatives 51.3%, Liberals 18.8%;
01/05 Conservatives 61.7%, Liberals 15.0%;
12/17 Conservatives 60.7%, Liberals 13.9%;
11/26, Conservatives 55.6%, Liberal 21.1%;
11/05 Conservatives 62.8%, Liberals 17.5%;


01/27 Conservatives 44.4%, Liberals 23.9%;
01/19 Conservatives 43.0%, Liberals 22.2%;
01/12 Conservatives 41.4%, Liberals 26.8%;
01/05 Conservatives 48.6%, Liberals 12.4%;
12/17 Conservatives 53.1%, Liberals 17.6%;
11/26, Conservatives 53.5%, Liberal 18.2%;
11/05 Conservatives 49.3%, Liberals 19.9%;


01/26 Conservatives 31.6%, Liberals 39.2%;
01/19 Conservatives 33.5%, Liberals 37.7%;
01/12 Conservatives 31.4%, Liberals 38.4%;
01/05 Conservatives 35.4%, Liberals 36.0%;
12/17 Conservatives 39.0%, Liberals 33.5%;
11/26, Conservatives 39.3%, Liberal 33.4%;
11/05 Conservatives 39.6%, Liberals 33.6%;


01/26 Conservatives 16.2%, Liberals 29.1%;
01/19 Conservatives 18.1%, Liberals 25.5%;
01/12 Conservatives 17.5%, Liberals 23.0%;
01/05 Conservatives 14.6%, Liberals 27.5%;
12/17 Conservatives 17.1%, Liberals 24.6%;
11/26, Conservatives 22.0%, Liberal 22.7%;
11/05 Conservatives 19.6%, Liberals 24.3%;


01/26 Conservatives 37.1%, Liberals 33.8%;
01/19 Conservatives 28.0%, Liberals 41.8%;
01/12 Conservatives 32.9%, Liberals 33.4%;
01/05 Conservatives 32.6%, Liberals 28.4%;
12/17 Conservatives 35.2%, Liberals 31.2%;
11/26, Conservatives 35.1%, Liberal 32.5%;
11/05 Conservatives 33.4%, Liberals 32.9%;

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Talking about dead man walking, here the Liberals are on a free ride thanks to the media and all they are seeing is blue skies and sunshine and along comes Gerrard Kennedy (friend of Bob Rae) to bring in the rain clouds.

With Ontario and BC looking at an 8.0% increase on top of what we currently are paying, Mr. Kennedy wishes to add another 2.0% on top of that bring the new total on other purchases to 10.0%.

So if you live in Ontario or B.C. look inside your wallet see how much cash is there and count up all living expenses and take 10.0% of that away and send it to the Liberal Party to spend - for me it is about $250.00 a month.

1) For months, Liberals have recoiled at any talk of raising the GST.

2) But a senior Liberal MP says the idea needs to be on the table as the party crafts its long-term plan to balance the country's books.

3) Toronto MP Gerard Kennedy, the party's infrastructure critic, says he's speaking for himself - the Liberal leadership want nothing to do with his remarks.

4) A quiet debate is playing out among some Liberals who think supporting a GST increase just might win the party some credibility in a future campaign focused on how best to erase the deficit.

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It is interesting that the SCoC has indicted the Liberal party of Canada as the sitting Government of the day for the following and that they did actively engage in the "torture" of this individual and that the "torture" stopped after the Liberals were defeated.

Looks as if we need an inquiry and we should pull all those Liberals who were sitting in Government in 2003 and 2004 and find out what they knew and when they knew as we clearly have "proof" of torture.

1) In an 9-0 ruling this morning, the Court said that Canada violated Mr. Khadr's Charter rights by participating in illegal interrogation methods which included sleep deprivation.

2) However, the judges could scarcely have been tougher in their finding that Mr. Khadr was mistreated during interrogations in 2003 and 2004.

3) “Canadian officials questioned Mr. Khadr on matters that may have provided important evidence relating to his criminal proceedings, in circumstances where they knew that Mr. Khadr was being indefinitely detained, was a young person, and was alone during the interrogations,” it said.

4)“Interrogation of a youth to elicit statements about the most serious criminal charges – while detained in these conditions and without access to counsel and while knowing the fruits of the interrogations would be shared with the U.S. prosecutors – offends the most basic Canadian standards about the treatment of detained youth suspects.”

5) Since the information obtained in the interrogation sessions may still be used against Mr. Khadr in the U.S proceedings, the Court said that, “the effect of the breaches cannot be said to have been spent.”

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Harper loses Supreme Court decision 9-0.

The Supreme Court says Harper has violated Kahdr's constitutional rights and must repatriate him. More autocratic and nasty behaviour from Harper the dictator. Close Parliament close all inquiries, ignore the Supreme Court and become the worst PM to stack the Senate in the history of Canada. At least Martin appointed 4 Conservatives. Harper is a power hungry hypocrite.

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Only a matter of time now, for the likes of Poy , Campbell, the Chretien hack Jim the CTV reporter to be forced out of the Senate:

G Kennedy what a Liberal fool proposing a increase to the GST at this time, these Liberals never get it right. No more money for your expenses Kennedy.

If this Senate is not reformed or abolished, I want war with the provinces that do not support it and you know who that is!

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Let The War Over The Senate Begin Now!

Are you ready? I am! Canada vs Ontario (416 only), Quebec and Atlantic Region you going down, and if the Senate is reformed rather than Abolished, you will be getting the seats you deserve! By Population not on some 18th century agreement!

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1) Whatever one thinks about Mr. Khadr or his family, no one can possibly deny any more that Omar Khadr’s constitutional rights have been grossly violated and still are being — though it’s worth remembering that the conduct of Canadians condemned in the Court decision occurred under successive Liberal governments.

1) It found that the rights violation continues because information obtained during illegal interrogations in 2003 and 2004 is still liable to be used against Mr. Khadr in U.S proceedings.

2) He emphasized the gravity of the allegations against Mr. Khadr and noted that the Supreme Court overturned two lower court decisions by finding that the government is not required to ask for Mr. Khadr's return from the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay.

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Harper said he will privatize health insurance

Harper's Minister of Justice lies to Canadians on national television, just like Harper does.
They lie to Canadians continually and it is now catching up wih them. Nicholson was a laughing stock on CPAC last night when he was called on his lies about crime bills being obstructed by Liberals.

Gloria Galloway

OTTAWA — From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Published on Saturday, Jan. 30, 2010 12:00AM EST

The Conservative government says the appointment of five new Tory senators will shift the balance in the upper house and end Liberal obstruction of their "tough on crime" agenda.

"I have a busy criminal law agenda but, [after] getting it stuck in the Senate and having it bogged down there for month after month, I know the game that they are playing," Justice Minister Rob Nicholson told a news conference yesterday.

Liberal senators "are trying to stall these things and they are doing the dirty work for the Liberals in the House of Commons."

In fact, the Conservatives introduced 17 bills as part of their criminal justice platform during the last session. Some of them came back for the second time after dying on the order paper when Prime Minister Stephen Harper took the country into an election in the fall of 2008.

Two of those bills - one that tackles organized crime and another that ends the granting of double credit for jail time served before a verdict - have been passed by the Senate and are now the law.

The rest died when Mr. Harper prorogued Parliament in December.

Of the 15 "urgently needed" bills still on the order paper at that time, just three had reached the Senate. One of them, the bill to repeal the faint hope clause, was passed by the House of Commons in late November and reached the Senate just two weeks before the Christmas break.

A bill that would create a separate offence for motor vehicle theft was passed by the House of Commons in June and is languishing in the Senate. A bill that would impose harsher sentences for drug crimes was modified by senators in December - prompting much outrage from Mr. Nicholson.

None of the remaining 12 bills on the Conservative criminal justice agenda had been passed in the House of Commons before prorogation, and most of them had never been brought before the Commons for discussion.

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I'm Not For Turning.

This Prime Minister believes in playing hard ball. I admire that. That's why he has 51 senators! But I also think that we have to take him on in every conceivable fashion possible. That's why I'm for continuing to have at it -- I think the day has dawned and the hour has struck for opening a second front against the government.

It's time for all progressives to act like we only want five friends on our Facebook pages: we need to make nice with the following Senators: Lowell Murray (PC), Michael Pitfield (Ind.), Jean-Claude Rivest (Ind.), Anne C. Cools (Unaff.) and Elaine McCoy (PC).

In my view, things have to be shaken up in the Senate to stymie the Conservative parliamentary agenda. When I see the overly subservient minister on TV whining about Liberal senators, I want to let him have it (figuratively speaking) for gross exaggeration. That minister has chosen to deliberately mislead us on what senators are actually up to. He and his government deserve a lesson they will never forget.

To put it another way: it's up to the Gang of Five. I hope these Honorable Senators will think about and then start acting as a bloc in the Upper Chamber. I want the Prorogation King, Harper II, to see how it feels when independently-minded senators opt for their own version of a mini-prorogation.

I agree with those who claim that, as a general principle, an unelected house must not be seen to be obstructing the will of a democratically-elected chamber. But Harper threw out all the rules and conventions when as a MINORITY government, he chose to prorogue two years in a row.

What's next? Another prorogation as soon as the opposition parties once again get the upper hand on the Conservative government? Is this the "new normal"? Not in my book.

You know where I stand. You have a pretty good idea where I'd like to see my party go. I'm for fireworks in March. I'm the guy who thinks standing up and being counted should be based on principle and platform, not electoral convenience; I'm ready to throw as big a spanner as possible into the Conservative about you?

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Response to Michael Ignatieff's Re the Senate

The only thing that is doable in the Senate is as follows:

1. Limit to 12 years only
2. 75% in Salary Reduction
3.No Expense Account
4.No travelling outside of Canada for any reason
5.No living in another country
6.No travelling outside of your Province you represent
7.No free meals, pack your lunch or order take out at your expense
8.Before you can form a committee or having a meeting you must 75% approval from the population of Canada, via electronic voting.
9.Number seats in the Senate by Rep by Population only

This is crock a usual your giving us. the middle class has been waiting years to abolish the place and now when the Conservatives have the Majority, you bastards are starting to whine and want to change the Rules.

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As reported by the Toronto Star, Globe and Mail, by Canadian Press

Opposition failed to contest rights-agency overhaul

"Now, Liberal MP Ralph Goodale is accusing Prime Minister Stephen Harper of “sabotage” of the 20-year-old agency."

“His objective here, obviously, is to destroy this organization from within, to cause such absolute turmoil that it will simply collapse,” Mr. Goodale said in an interview.

But what is the truth and why are the Liberals lying about it, to help in the discussion here are some of the points presented by Mr. Bruce Cheadle, which clearly shows the Liberals are lying "again"

"Liberals and NDP are crying foul over Rights and Democracy 'sabotage', but documents show they were notified of Tory appointments."

"Liberals and New Democrats both objected last September to one proposed appointee, who subsequently was not placed on the board."

" But they remained silent as some others with clear Conservative ties or little pertinent international human rights experience were chosen. "

"the office of Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon produced correspondence showing every party leader had indeed been notified in advance of every appointment."

" No objections were recorded, apart from those from Mr. Goodale and NDP MP Paul Dewar last September in relation to one proposed appointee."

" She was not appointed. "

"Mr. Goodale maintains his party can find no record of being notified of the other appointees, notwithstanding the dated government copies."

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If you read through this article, you will see that the purpose of the Liberals and NDP parties is not reform of the powers of the Prime Minster s office or limit prorogation.

But to set the table for the creation of a second coalition of the Liberals NDP and Bloc following the next federal Election and to limit the ability of the Prime Minster top stop the creation a of Government lead by the Liberals and supported by the NDP and Bloc that overturns the election results and that is a real challenge to your democary.

Why else, Mr. Ignatieff flip flop and why the limitation is only on the first year of the sitting Government.

Tuesday, January 26, 2010 7:59 AM EST, Why a third Globe prorogation editorial fails

1) If you read between the lines of today’s editorial, you’ll see that The Globe has repudiated Saturday’s editorial in which it supported Jack Layton’s proposal to legislate a requirement that Stephen Harper and his successors not have the power to request that the Governor-General prorogue Parliament without a majority vote in the House of Commons.

2) Regrettably, it again does not explain its quick pivot, but it’s not hard to guess why .

3) Finally, after reading today’s news report and others, it’s good news that the Globe has left itself room to back off further – even though Mr. Ignatieff’s flip-flop seems to be playing well enough politically that the Conservatives are giving signs of re-joining battle with the reconstituted Liberal-NDP coalition.
4) In Le Devoir, Michael Ignatieff says: “We believe that the GG would have no choice but to respect Parliament, which is supreme and functions according to constitutional conventions that the GG respects.”

5) In the Globe, Benoit Pelletier, a constitutional expert and former Quebec minister of intergovernmental relations, argues that “amending the rules of the House or passing legislation would not be enough to force the Governor-General to ignore the wishes of a prime minister calling for a prorogation.

6) "It’s legitimate to try [to limit a prime minister’s power], but the possibility of blocking a prorogation is not obvious,” said the law professor at the University of Ottawa.

7) Mr. Pelletier said that prorogation is an element of the country’s political system and has a tacit constitutional recognition.

8) “I think the Governor-General would obey the prime minister,” he said.

9) A view echoed, in a report by CP that Bloc whip Michel Guimond says “the Bloc supports in principle efforts to impose constraints on the prime minister’s power to prorogue.

10) But he said the party has been advised by legal experts that a constitutional amendment, approved by the provinces, is the only way to go about it….

11) He doubted there’s much appetite for reopening the constitutional can of worms.

12) “In principle, we are not against the solutions proposed by the two other parties but we know that we must be realistic,” Guimond said in an interview.

13) He said the Bloc will not make a final decision until it sees the details of the Liberal and NDP proposals.”

14) The Globe, on the other hand, reports that “Ned Franks, one of the country’s foremost experts on parliamentary procedure, doubted the opposition proposals would require a constitutional amendment.

15) They would impose conditions on the prime minister before he could advise the Governor General to prorogue Parliament but they would not alter the Governor-General’s constitutional power to reject or accept such advice, he said.

16) "Franks was not keen on the Liberal proposals, which he found unnecessarily complicated. He said history has shown that there’s often good reason to prorogue after only a year or for longer than a month. He preferred the NDP’s more straightforward proposal.”

17) In Le Devoir, Professor Franks goes further, arguing that “the Liberal proposal is not practicable because it alters Crown privilege.

18) You would have to include an escape clause, even though that would render the proposal worthless, which is what happened with the fixed election date law when it was challenged.”

19) Finally, it’s good news that the Globe publishes Jeffrey Simpson. For, if you think about his column for a few minutes, you’ll see that this is essentially a political issue that should be settled when Stephen Harper and Michael Ignatieff next square off at the ballot box.

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I think the Tories are sinking faster than the Titanic:

A new poll suggests a seismic political shift is under way, with the Conservatives off balance and the Liberals gaining traction in important areas.

On the surface, the Harris-Decima survey conducted for The Canadian Press suggests a dead heat between the two parties, at 32 per cent each. The NDP was at 15 per cent, the Bloc Quebecois at 10, and the Greens at nine.

But Harris-Decima chairman Allan Gregg says the real story lies below the headline numbers.

“What you have on the surface is a dead heat, but if you dig a little deeper, what you see is that the Liberals are clearly making some inroads into key, battleground constituencies.”

“They are emerging as the federalist default option to the BQ in the province of Quebec, they are ahead in Ontario for the first time since September.”

The Quebec data, over two weeks, show the Bloc with 38 per cent, the Liberals with 28, the Tories well behind at 13, the NDP at 11 and the Greens at eight.

[updated Mon Feb 01 18:16:36 -0500 2010]

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01 Feb 18:16

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Harper is destroying Canadian democracy and Canada itself with his dicatorial ways. Now he is trying to shut down Rights and Democracy non-partisan organization with an international mandate and is calling them radical lefties. Funny thing is that they were crated by Mulroney that leftie crazy. These guys just cintinue to lie and shut down all our democracy. There radical right wing agenda is now obvious to Canadians.

[updated Mon Feb 01 21:32:19 -0500 2010]

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01 Feb 21:32

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This should be interesting to see how well Canadians will react to a tax and spend Liberal Government as It would appear that the Liberals are staking out the following ground for the next election.

They are comitting to spend more in prder to create a bigger deficit than the one we currently have, because it really was not big enough before at $30 B and although the Liberals said that it was too big at $56.0 B, it really is not because we the Liberal party have no plan to reduce the deficit and do not "no" how to do so and will now increase the deficit to an exceptable $61.0 Billion.

"Michael Ignatieff won't let the biggest deficit in Canadian history stop him from promising that a Liberal government would make major investments in child care."

"Mr. Ignatieff would not put a price tag on the kind of child-care program he envisions, saying that it would depend on the financial situation at the time his party took power."

[updated Tue Feb 02 12:06:19 -0500 2010]

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02 Feb 12:06

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Harper and his band of oportunistic band of phoneys. First they lie and blame the senate for holding up 12 crime bills that they themselves ended when they prorogued parliament. Now we find the Minister lies about what he believes in.

Justice Minister Nicholson pushes crime bill he used to be against
As a Mulroney backbencher, Rob Nicholson was against mandatory minimum sentences for drug crimes.
Published February 1, 2010 View story Email Comments To the Editor

The Hill TimesFederal Justice Minister Rob Nicholson, who is pushing the government's tough on crime agenda and plans to revive the bill on mandatory minimum sentences for drug crimes in the next Parliamentary session, did not support the proposed law when he was a Mulroney backbencher.

[updated Tue Feb 02 13:19:22 -0500 2010]

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02 Feb 13:19

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More proof of Harper's hypocrisy and lies.

Prime Minister objected to February House break for Olympics last fall
All three opposition parties have declined the chance to get reserved Olympics tickets.

Published February 1, 2010

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who shut down Parliament until March 3, last fall objected to a short Parliamentary recess in February to allow MPs and Senators to attend the Vancouver Olympics to cheer on Canadian athletes

[updated Tue Feb 02 13:21:28 -0500 2010]

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02 Feb 13:21

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The disgusting Harper attack ads are out! They notably only call Ignatieff a traitor for questioning the troops behaviour (even though he is not). Meanwhile there are three opposition parties are attacking the Harper cabal for the Afghan disgrace. harper is running scared and knows nothing but attack ads and photo ops. Pathetic.

I watched the embarassing spectacle that Peter Braid put on for CTV's Power and Politics.
It was hideous. Bob Rae and Paul Dewer cornered him on the Afghan issue and all he could answer was that the opposition was dissing the troops. Tom Clark had to ask him to stop repeating the same talking point. That's when it got really embarassing, because he started to cotradict himself and had no answers at all. The focus just kept coming back to the fact that Harper is hiding and the government is hiding what happened.

Paul Dewer then invoked the mercy rule and said he felt sorry for Braid having to be on the show say what Harper was forcing him to say, knowing it is ridiculous. These guys are a disgrace to Canada and should be thrown out as soon as possible. Anything is better than this fiasco.

[updated Wed Feb 03 22:27:23 -0500 2010]

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03 Feb 22:27

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A quick read of the posts under the articles in various newspapers about Harper offering to work the HOC overtime in March would indicate he is only digging the hole deeper for himself. People are starting to demand an election in increasing numbers.

Interesting times.

[updated Thu Feb 04 05:30:39 -0500 2010]

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04 Feb 05:30

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The weekly EKOS poll is out and shows the Libs inching ahead of the Reformatorts.

The most interesting stat is that on the busiest days of polling, also the ones with the smallest margin of error, the Libs are pulling out in front by 2 and 3 % points.

The levels of dissatisfaction with the government are also firming up, most notably in Quebec.

[updated Thu Feb 04 05:46:07 -0500 2010]

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04 Feb 05:46

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Re: the globe and mail Feb 4, 2010:

Michael,just accept the fact, your No Leader!

[updated Thu Feb 04 15:34:12 -0500 2010]

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04 Feb 15:34

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The Verdict Is In: We're Considered Nothing More Than "IDIOTS"!

Comforting thought -- play us all for fools and hope we aren't smart enough to see through the game playing. Let me get this straight. This government needed a time out to prepare for the big March breakout. After all, it's not as if they've ever had to present a throne speech, or a budget, before.

Changing the political channel can be fraught with unexpected land mines. Going down the road least traveled has led to severe political consequences for the Harper government. Then came the bait and switch: here's a splendid idea -- how about foregoing two weeks of the spring recess! Why in heaven would we have to do that, you may be tempted to ask? Talk about colossal nerve. Faut le faire...

But no matter, the Prime Minister of everything has it all under control. Not to worry. So let's have the other two parties line up behind we Liberals and actually get Parliament back to work. The opposition parties can be proud when they will be cashing their next pay cheques. The guys in the bank lines with faces redder than their Olympic mittens should be easy enough to peg. I hear they're generally known as Conservatives.

Clever strategy that one. What was it again? Oh yes, Overreach 10, if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for being nothing if not consistent...

[updated Thu Feb 04 21:49:30 -0500 2010]

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04 Feb 21:49

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And The Winner Of The Captain Smith Award Is...Prime Minister Stephen Harper!

Nice going, Ottawa...the PM and Peter Van Loan are slated to make the big announcement. The deal that ain't on Goodbye American is slated to go off the rails in front of the media tomorrow. Or at least, that's the version we're left to believe.

Canadian companies must be beside themselves. With most of the U.S. stimulus money long spent, the Obama Administration has gotten the Harper government to finally say "Uncle"!

Sign on the WTO dotted line and watch the invasion of the body snatchers...every country and her sister will be out for a piece of the Canadian stimulus pie while our companies will be left to pick up whatever crumbs we happen to be entitled to bid on.

Nice going. Now that's what I call clever NEGOTIATING. It took a while but we finally succeeded in negotiating the closing of the barn door. Never mind that there happens not to be even a single horse still in sight.

It's deals like that that made America the great power that she is today. But look at the bright side, now we can go on to the next item on the U.S. agenda and blow it on Black Liquor! (Too bad Jim Prentice has his mouth full over at Environment.)

[updated Thu Feb 04 22:32:30 -0500 2010]

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04 Feb 22:32

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This says it all. Get rid of the guy now.

Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:02 PM

PM prefers NHL to Parliament
Jane Taber

Stephen Harper says he’d rather be playing hockey in the NHL than playing politics in the House of Commons.

[updated Fri Feb 05 01:20:06 -0500 2010]

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05 Feb 01:20

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Jack Layton has Prostate cancer. As a Liberal I'm sure everyone of all politcal stripes will join in and wish him the best of luck in a speedy recovery. His wife and father are cancer survivors, so I hope he follows in their footsteps. He is not announcing a resignation and is staying on as leader.

Good luck Jack, I hope you are back to work soon.

[updated Fri Feb 05 14:50:40 -0500 2010]

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05 Feb 14:50

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Harper and the CONservatives are a laughing stock in Macleans.

Conservative Talking Points for the Decision to Cancel Spring Break for MPs
by Scott Feschuk on Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:24am - 14 Comments

The purpose of prorogation was to allow the government to prepare a new Throne Speech and a budget. It was not to reduce the amount of time that the House sits.

The government had planned all along to cancel the spring break for MPs.

This is not a reaction to our declining poll numbers and the public’s opposition to the Prime Minister’s decision to prorogue Parliament.

No, seriously.

Seriously, it totally isn’t. Honest.

Why are you laughing?

Stop laughing.


Thank you.

As I was saying, this is in no way a reaction to–

Stop rolling your eyes!!!

[updated Sat Feb 06 19:10:29 -0500 2010]

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06 Feb 19:10

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Talk about Chutzpah!

Nice to see the Harper government on the defensive over the Bye Bye American accord. Up until recently, it was a "[Stephen], we didn't get it done" moment. I have no quarrel with the agreement as it relates to future commercial opportunities for our companies.

But I do think we have to recognize that it comes much too late to be of any practical use regarding federally financed infrastructure outlays during the current round of American stimulus spending.

This brings us to CanadianSense, never averse to excessively squeezing the lemons rather than concentrating on making lemonade out of a living in the present-tense dud. In one of his masterly attempts at killing the messenger, he almost outdoes himself (as if such a thing was actually possible!) with the following doozy:

"Why is the Liberal Party attacking the efforts of both leaders and government employees who spent months on this file? Political games?

Our diplomatic,civil servants, business leaders, municipal leaders working on behalf of Canada deserve more respect than the Liberals give.Shame on the Liberals for not supporting Canada in this effort."

Please. This guy wins the chutzpeh prize hands down, I'll give him that, but can anyone really take such an affirmation seriously? All I can say in reply is tell that one to Richard Colvin.

Too bad I haven't got the Guinness people's phone number. This whopper has got to be a new record on the Double standard Richter scale. No wonder the "disloyal opposition" is having a field day.

[updated Sat Feb 06 19:48:57 -0500 2010]

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06 Feb 19:48

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Here's another reason why we should never ever again have a reformatory government:

Canadians worried about what Stephen Harper might do if he were to have a majority should look at what he's doing to Canada's leading human rights agency.

To recap the scandal at Montreal-based Rights and Democracy:

His allies on its board hound its president, Remy Beauregard, for months. On Jan. 7, they vote to repudiate three small grants to NGOs monitoring human rights violations by both Israel and the Palestinians. He subsequently dies of a heart attack. The staff signs a petition demanding that the chair and two board executives resign. The three hire a private investigator. There's a Watergate-style break-in at the centre and two laptops are stolen. Three managers are suspended. There's a chorus of criticism by Beauregard's family, by four former board presidents, by about 100 academics and by 52 NGOs from the U.S., Europe and Israel.

Who's in Harper's Gang of Seven that has caused so much havoc?

[updated Sun Feb 07 05:18:38 -0500 2010]

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07 Feb 05:18

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neveratory (suspended)

Here's a twitter comment from Rod Bruinooge a reformatory MP:

"I wonder if Ignattieff wants to export the option od sex selection abortions beyond our borders,to the detriment of the world's unborn girls".

One can find this little nasty piece on:

Just goes to show you where we would be as a society with these neanderthals in full charge of government with a majority.

[updated Sun Feb 07 20:07:29 -0500 2010]

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07 Feb 20:07

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